new city regulations and rules. Christian then? Here. Don’t think. Here. Greatg thinker. Here. Steve Bakke Milly Dow. Here. Here’s Sin Devora. Here. Nancy Do here. Hey, He’s off. Here. Lee. Eric Hoer, oh David We Thank you. David is here. Eric. Eric’s not here. So, we do have a quorum. Thank you, everybody. Um, under the new, uh, rules, we’ll, uh, see if there’s any public comment before we get into the uh the agenda? Is there anybody here from the public? wishing to comment on anything? I don’t see anyone. So we’ll move on to the approval of the minutes of the July 10th meeting. Any comments, questions, changes, corrections on the minutes. Move to approve. Is there a second? Second. All in favor can say aye on that one. Motion carries. Thank you. We’ll move on to the regular agenda item 2A is Zimmermann’s mural at 201 East Main Avenue, and this is a downtown design review item that Daniel is going to walk us through. Good evening, Chair Christiansen Authority members, uh, I’m filling in for Isaac this week. He is on vacation, so I will go over this one agenda item that is on your regular agenda. Uh, Mel Gordon is also here, the artist who is proposing this mural. So, uh, the technical and artistic questions. She will be here to answer. I will just kind of give you a little bit of background. OK, so the location is 201 East Main Avenue, uh, Zim Zimmerman’s Furniture Building, uh, the location would be the West side of the building on the wall with a different shade of color, uh, the cinderblock wall on that side of the building, uh, this will be a public art mural, uh, in the downtown Core zoning district. So this would require Downtowns design review as you, most of you are familiar with, uh, there are very minimal requirements within our ordinance, and that is that if it’s on an historic facade, it has to be, uh, done in such a way that would preserve that facade. This, this is not considered such. Uh, it would not be allowed on the front of a building, only on the sides, and so this is compliant with that. It’s on the side facing the parking area, uh, and, uh, any commercial messaging would trigger the signing requirements, and this does not have that. This is a public art mural. And so those are, uh, what we do to use to evaluate that as staff and so the staff report does contain a lot of evaluation and we do believe it meets all of those things. So, uh, I can go over a little bit and my understanding is actually the final design has not been selected yet, so we have a few options that are here and perhaps Mel could lead us through those and, uh, what’s, uh, the processes and where they are right now with selecting the the design. Uh, this shows you where, how it would look on the building in context and then uh there are a few other options there are still working through with the owner, uh, and Odni Advertising, uh, who this would be in honor of and so I can, I’ll leave it to M Gordon to go over more of those. Well, come on up and please introduce yourself. I’m Melissa Gordon, local artist. Thank you. Um, so yeah, I, uh, the two, I don’t know how to scroll these, but if you look up here on the, on the right hand side of the screen, the sasquatch and the one below that, the 1872 design are the two that they sent me last night saying that after, you know, all the artistic fury of, of designing, those are the two that they plan to present to Gene on Monday, Monday at 4. So, just those two? Just those two is what they have, they have distilled all the ideas down to at this point in time. And is the Agni Agni, yes, it’s Adne’s Adne’s design team are the ones that um wanted to compile the the design. What it is is it’s their 40th anniversary this year, and they wanted to donate a mural to the city of Bismarck. So, um, both of those designs or all the designs actually celebrate Bismarck in some way, shape, or form. Um, can you enlarge just a little bit so that we can. Daniel do that. I’m not touching that. Well, those just came. Uh, you know, I do have photographs if that would help. Sure Joe Do you have a comment or a question, your, your name just came up on the screen. Oh. OK. We lost the mors and we gained Joe. Now we lost everything. So, uh, questions of, of Melissa. Anybody? And I have a question of staff maybe, Daniel. How much um latitude or how much control does this body have over the final design. So the, based on past experience, you do have the authority to approve or not the Dawnton Designer review. However, uh, the basis of that approval really should be the ordinance requirements, which are really those those items that I mentioned really very technical specific items, not necessarily related to the artwork itself. OK. Adam Kate Adam. Oh Adam Adam Kate. Oh Adam, thank you, sir. um sir. Mike, Mike wasn’t on. Thanks, Mel. Um, do you have permission to be on the other property while you’re doing it from, from Main Avenue Partners because the parking lot’s owned by somebody else and then the building zimmerman’s building is a different owner, so I did not know that. I would just maybe, I think the building across the street owns that parking lot and I’m sure they be worth asking them just to make sure, no, I thank you for telling me that. I had no idea. I will definitely make sure that we’re OK to be there. The, uh, the bank, is it the bank across the street that owns it? It, yeah, it’s right now, yep. Where is there a bank across the street? Oh, I guess so. All right. Yeah, it is. I was thinking this was across from Butterhorn. Oh, OK, Down a little bit OK. Um Yeah, OK. Yeah. You know what gas Yeah. Yeah. OK. OK. A couple of guys. Um, questions or comments for Melissa? So other than, yeah, God, David, thank you. Thank you, Chair. Um, yeah, just I guess just to point, some points of clarification more than anything, um, so the, the packet says the mural is not commercial in nature. It’s being sponsored by a business, but it’s not promoting that business. I think, you know, the, the description was, you know, the intent is to celebrate Bismarck. I think that’s that all sounds, sounds great, uh, just the caveat that the design being present ed is maybe not the final design, um, as far as making the determination once the design is final as to whether or not it is commercial in nature. I, I, I assume that’s a staff call that can be made, um, at that point, um to just discern whether or not it is commercial in nature in the final version of it, um, just wanted to raise that, you know, point and that concern. I’m, I’m not concerned, but I think it was worth. asking, so So will there be any references to any commercial businesses? whether in text or in image. That, that, that’s not the plan, and I made sure that they were aware of that being an ad agency. That was one of the things I said, you know, I can’t have words because that constitutes advertising of some sort. or any imagery, you know, so they’re like, oh, no sofas, yeah, no sofas for Zimmermans, but, you know, being of somewhat an older era, I, I really like the, the two with the riverboat in the Capitol Building, the previous ones, but if we have a riverboat, is that commercial because we have a commercial riverboat operation on the river, I mean. No, cause we used to have other River. It’s there. It’s part of the city. It’s a history, yeah. So. so, but I, you know, that’s just my opinion. I lean towards the more but it’s not up to me Well, we’re not, I guess we’re not picking the design. Correct. So cause, I have a favorite too. What is it? You can tell us It doesn’t matter Well, I like the one with, um the river boat and the bike rider and the wineglass and the dogs and the Capitol and the flag and the blockhouse and Sure. What’s going on there, but, but anyway, I, I like the idea. It’s a nice way to kind of welcome people into the city. I was going to say the same thing. People coming in from the West, yeah. Yeah, and that’s, you know, and it’s not a very attractive wall, so the wall gets some love and Yeah, the wall could definitely use a little brushing up bits. Oh yeah, yeah. So, you know, I think as long as there are no words, you know, or any, any logo that makes it. aner advertisement. I think it’s fine with me. About how long do you think it will, the project will take? So, they would like to have it done by September 30th. OK. And, um, my Mason guys lined up and ready to roll. probably next week sometime, but it, it also depends on which one they pick. The Sasquatch one is going to take me longer than the other one is. Yeah, so that one’s pretty busy in lots of different colors, so. yeah. But you have issues once the nighttime temperatures start dropping into the 40s, right? Correct. So, September is kind of a crapshoot. It could go either way really fast and and just be done for the season, so yeah, I’m. hoping to wrap everything up by mid-September, just to not roll the dice OK. Any other questions, Joe, are you still with us remotely? or did we lose your? Oh, did you have any comments or questions? I appreciate your opinions. Well done, G group. OK Well, if there’s no further comments or questions of the applicant, uh, what are your wishes, the action would be to deny or to approve and probably delegate final, final to the uh technical advisor and staff, I would guess, to make sure that it passes muster. so. I’ll make a motion to approve based on the staff recommendation with all those. um, caveats in place. Caveats. Further discussion it’s been moved and seconded, seconded that we approve this application. If there’s no further discussion, call the roll, please, Sandra. Authority members Zenker. Yes, Fink Yes. So, yes, the work. Yes. Guy? Yes. Herzo? Yes, Chare Christiansen. Yes, the motion carries. Thanks, Will. Thank you so much. Good luck. Thank you. Good luck Um, any further business? This could be one of the shortest renaissance zone meetings in recorded history. a summer day Anything further? Anybody have anything for the good of the order, Joe? Do you have anything further? since you’re not here? I do not, OK. Um, if there’s no objection, then, um, and nothing further,