00:00:30,430	I don’t see anyone Kate, you’re going to talk to us later Uh, we’ll move on to the consideration of the minutes. He changes, corrections, comments on the minutes of the last meeting, if not, is there a motion to approve? 02 All right, moving 2 at all in favor. Say aye. Pa same sign that motion carries.

00:00:54,070	We’ll move on to the regular agenda starting with the financial statements Jeremy, is there anything you wish to point out that’s extraordinary or out of the ordinary or unusual. Well, Mr.

00:01:13,730	Chair, authority board members, we had um extra uh parking revenue in September because of the street fair, we made, uh, about $6300 just from that weekend. That’s uh about an average. uh for what we’ve been seeing the last uh couple of years, so that’s good. Um, so that your year to date is uh through September, so, uh, three quarters into the year already.

00:01:27,730	Um, as I had mentioned at the last, uh, meeting we’re on our, um, monthly parking we’re down about 2% and that’s cause some spots, um, uh, our, our monthly parking spots sold is less than, uh, it was last year at this time, roughly average about 43 spots a month.

00:01:49,900	Um, there’s been some shifting with certain federal businesses and whatnot, um, down s izing and um that has an effect on that and then, um, but the good news is comparatively to from 2 years ago, we’re still up, um, in that regard.

00:02:06,100	So, uh, it’s worried about kind of a midpoint, so not nothing like too alarming there as far as the, the income side on expenses, uh, we’re tracking, uh, to budget on that, um, on repairs maintenance item, item to note on that, there was um an arrow, um, uh, cleaning bill, uh, water extraction, excuse me, from the Sanford during the last, uh, rain event, uh, there was some water intrusion in the

00:02:28,600	alleyway, uh, that got in through the cracks and onto their walls, so we had to do a little bit of mitigation for that. So that was, uh, just under 5000 for that mitigation.

00:02:41,900	So that happened in the past? That did happen last year when we had the big rain event as well, and the city uh has helped us with some uh tarring, uh, uh, to seal those cracks in that alleyway, so we think that will, uh, help alleviate or eliminate that for, for the future so uh, and then under a leasing commissions that was the commission to CRA for our new

00:02:59,630	tenant global Nes, uh, for their thrift store in the arcade. Um, they have moved in and their store hours are, um, Wednesday through Saturday 9:00 a.m. to 5 p.m. and then they take uh donate, they’re not open on Tuesdays, but Tuesdays is their donation drop off day. OK.

00:03:22,370	Any questions of management regarding the financials? Any questions, anybody? If not, is there a motion to approve, said Financials. Yeah, well, I’ll make that motion. Is there a second? A Seconded by Todd, um, any discussion, if not, would you call the roll on that one, please, Sue? John? Yes. Josh. Yes. Todd? Yes. Jake? Yes. Jim? Yes, that motion carries.

00:03:44,270	Item 4 on the agenda is a burley county your quest to use an area on the 5th and 3rd parking lot to stage uh, for a mor mural painting. on the south side of the Provident building, and we have Comm Jerry Woodcock with us this morning. Welcome. Good morning.

00:04:04,070	Thank you Uh, this project is, uh, celebration of our 250th anniversary of, uh, United States being formed back in 1776, uh, and there’s going to be a lot of celebrations around the United States, but Bernie County’s taking on this project of a mural on the south side of the Provident Life Building. If you look at it, it’s all brick.

00:04:22,230	It’s 75 ft wide and I think 100 ft tall and so there’s a lot of area there to develop. And we’re remodeling the uh Proent life building right now for the next 2 years, so this is a good project to Next, next July, uh, uh, we’re looking at July 1st sometime during the week.

00:04:38,630	There’s gonna be a lot of scheduling. Bismarckla something. The state will have something, uh, on their own, but this we’re looking for a cooperative effort to, to put a mural on the, the, uh, south side of the, of the Provident Life building.

00:04:55,230	And I’m here to ask for your permission to, we’ll be setting up some uh scaffolding uh to put the actually the way they do this nowadays is they make, I thought they just painted right onto the wall. Well, that’s not true at all.

00:05:11,530	They have, uh, a group that’s that’s doing it will have panels that are like 4 by 4 or 5 by 5, and over the wintertime they’ll be doing these panels with all the different features of, of, uh, we want to combine City of Bismarck, Bertie County, the state, Native American.

00:05:26,170	all together and have different areas and we’re working on that right now as to what theme we’re going to have or what themes there’ll be several and then these panels that are 4 by 4 are made on a vinyl type of material, and then there are, there are individually attached like a checkerboard on the uh on the side of the Province, uh, in the spring, maybe June, something like that.

00:05:43,430	But we would need use of the, the parking lot, uh, that’s on the south side that the city owns that probably 1020 ft probably for about we’re looking at a week to put this up.

00:06:00,170	So probably the middle of June, something like that or around the first of July we haven’t set that we aren’t that far along yet, but we have raised quite a bit of money already. We’ve got a matching grant from the state uh Historic Society of 25,000 and uh and the uh Burley County has committed to match that. We had to match it. I’m not sorry, 25, 35, so that’s 70,000 there, and we’ve committed $10,000 from our community development fund for this year, next year.

00:06:20,730	uh, to add on to that. So we do have funding. We’ve got some more grants that we’re putting in in place that are, are being assessed right now, but we may get to a much higher figure than that.

00:06:35,630	We, we don’t know exactly what it’s going to cost, um, yet, uh, the artists get a fee and uh we have production and cost supplies and all that type of thing, but, uh, Aaron Barth is working very closely with us, and he’s, uh, excellent. He’s really good. It’s, it’s really a small community of these.

00:06:54,800	of these organizations that do, uh, historic work and uh artwork and, and uh they all get, I should, they all get together, but they all know each other, so they, they communicate very well, but I’m just here to ask you if we can, I don’t know if you want to charge us rent, I suppose you can, but uh that’s a good idea put write

00:07:08,800	that down, Jim. And uh uh we’d, I would, I would think 2 weeks would be sufficient to put these up, but that’s what we’re looking for and uh I just request your permission to, to do that.

00:07:22,730	We need to get that, uh, in place so we know for sure we can do it or if that didn’t happen, we probably would have trouble doing the project, so questions of Comm Woodcock.

00:07:44,530	Any questions, anybody? Ha, what’s the width? total width Well, the width of buildings like 75 ft, and the height is 7 stories, so I’m thinking that’s uh another 75 ft. Well, we’re, we don’t know exactly how much we’re gonna do. We’re waiting on the design if we have a, and I’m, I’m speculating a giant flag that goes up the 7th story. We don’t know of, but we don’t know, uh, maybe a state flag along with it or something. We haven’t really sad.

00:08:03,170	Palm’s Well, I think we’re going to probably use the whole thing and and we may be, we may do, we, we probably do a section and move down, do another section, move down, do another section of that type of thing, but it would be the width of the tower portion.

00:08:14,900	Uh, there’s an annex. It’s on the. That would be included? Possibly, possibly. uh just here to ask your permission to use that for a period of time. There is one tree. Uh, there’s a row of trees along there along the 5th Street side.

00:08:32,700	There’s one tree that’s right up against the building that’s we think is a volunteer. We’re going to have the state or the city forced to look at that. That should be removed, we think, because it’s actually right adjacent to the, uh, foundation, so we think it’s probably not doing any good for the foundation of the building.

00:08:49,100	So we may remove that, uh, or have that removed, but we’re gonna wait on confirmation on, uh, whether it’s necessary or not. It does get in the way of the view of the, of the uh uh building, but, uh, we’ll have to wait and see what that happens. That probably won’t happen until next spring.

00:09:04,170	So Jerry, how long would the, uh, the artwork be in place and who would be responsible for maintaining. These are, these aren’t, it’s really more scientific than I realized, but the paint that they put on these, on these panels, is not supposed to leech through to the other side, but we have to get the state historic Society is working with us and, uh, developing that paint we’re doing research

00:09:21,330	to find out what type of paint we have to use so it doesn’t go through the uh murals onto the wall. They’re attached with uh some kind of attachment that will go into night into the brick but go into the mortar so that if, if it ever comes down

00:09:36,070	to 1015 years from now, uh, you can replace it with a different design or a different idea or whatever you want to do because it’s very flexible, but, uh, we just don’t want the, the brick on the south side to be harmed, so. OK.

00:09:52,000	Um, Jeremy, anything from your perspective? Uh, Chair Authority board members, I had, um, I had a list of questions that I had emailed uh to all of you, uh, this week that Aaron Barth had, um, answered for me and so I think that um, uh I guess I had, I had my biggest concern was how many spots would be displaced and

00:10:09,800	for how long, and it sounds like they’re able to do this in sections where potentially only 3 spots get interrupted at any one day or time, which we feel is workable, um, and, um, you know, the, the lot is, uh, completely sold out, but we know that it’s not completely occupied 100% at all times, at

00:10:30,270	all days, so displacing, uh, you know, three spots or so at a time would not be cumbersome, I would not think. OK. Todd Jeremy, what kind of a perimeter, what do we need around the scaffolding for safety. Uh, great, great question.

00:10:46,070	Uh, so those are some details I guess we would have to work out with the Heritage Foundation that, um, in Burleigh County, uh, I guess as far as like uh I, I would think that we would want them to put maintain the safety perimeter as opposed to parking authority being responsible for that.

00:11:05,430	I’m sure the, uh, conn will be put out there so you can’t get up against the scaffolding or and we will take as minimum, the minimum number of spaces we can, we have to at a time, and I’m thinking they’re going to move, you know, 30 ft and then move another 30 ft and move another

00:11:18,070	30 ft, and we do have extra, uh, spots on our flat lot, which is north of the pro life building across the street.

00:11:31,900	So, uh, we can make it if, if we, if we lose s an spots, we can make the 10 available for the kitty car from the library. Jim and I have been working on using that flat lot for how many years? A long time. Long time. What’s the definition of long time? 1520 years, something like that, probably. Trying to get a, a, a, uh, ramp put in there, a joint ramp for the city and county.

00:11:45,800	So we do have some spots available that today? Pardon me? You want to sell that lot today? How much money you got All right. Um, other questions of Comm Woodcock.

00:12:02,370	It’s going to be a fantastic, I think a fantastic operation and, and we’re gonna, and you can walk by on Fifth Street and and Rosser, is that Rossert there and, uh, see this, and it’s going to be a great addition to the celebration of the 250th anniversary. Sounds like it, and just an FYI for the authority, if we approve it this morning, it still goes before the Renaissance zone this afternoon, the Downtown Design Review Committee.

00:12:21,600	for the final approval. Is that right, Isaac? correct So Isaac Hanban to call there he is. If I remember I Oh yeah, certainly. Uh, so yes, Jarek Christiansen, that is correct. It would eventually need to go to design review.

00:12:40,870	If there’s no design picked out right now, we don’t have to worry about it right this moment, but when a design is uh in place or or more or less in place they can come to the design review board just to ensure that it meets the few spots in the ordinance that would be relevant. Kate, what are your wishes? I should be fine. There’s, we need a motion to approve.

00:12:59,530	I’ll make that motion. It’s moved. Is there a second. Moved in second and any further discussion? If not, Sue, please call the roll. John, Josh, Todd, Jake, Jim. Yes, that motion carries. Thanks, Jerry. Sounds like a I’m sorry, I was visiting on the side. Did we have perfect, perfect time to be awake.

00:13:21,370	Did we, we had the vote. Yeah and nay yet or? It’s all good. Oh, perfect. Thank you very much. Appreciate it Appreciate. Look forward to it. It should be a pretty, pretty cool project.

00:13:40,270	Item 5 on the agenda is to review monthly parking rates, Jeremy as Chair Authority board members, this was the item that we had tabled from, uh, the last meeting, so I re-included, uh, in your packets, um, some of the information.

00:13:57,100	uh that you had from last time on current parking rates, um, and, uh, but then it included, um, per the request is, uh, just a snapshot of like what in dollar amounts that would look like as far as um monetary rate increases, so I included the table from anywhere from 1 to $4 for monthly rate increases with that equates to by percentage and then total annual additional, uh, revenue. So, um, as a, um. kind of a background.

00:14:21,700	in the expenditures per parking spot in this, um, page was included in your packet as well as far as, uh, the last 7 years of what are operating just base operating expenses have been, and this is for all ramps, uh, and surface lots, but we’re, um, for instance, in 2024, uh, operating costs for $35.21 per uh parking space.

00:14:46,170	Um, and included though is of course capital expenditures, uh, that do come up from, uh, time to time from repairers primarily from the paradde ramp, but all inclusive, uh, divided by the total number of, uh, parking spots at, um, 17,000 or 1,723, excuse me, uh, you putting those capital expenditures in, in addition to our regular operating, uh,

00:15:14,170	we’re at 57 dollars 53 cents per spot of total expenses and then of course our monthly rate currently is $64 per month for monthly parking. OK. Thanks for the summary, Jeremy. Any questions or comments? at this point. Historically, we’ve had done the every other year we do $2.

00:15:35,000	Is that what we’ve done historically? Yeah, uh, Chair Authority board members, the last increase that we had um done was in March of 2023. And, um, from management’s perspective, I guess that, you know, we would recommend a $2 increase from 64 to 66, which would be 3%, and then that would be an additional $40,000

00:15:56,170	in revenue. Um, as I was mentioning earlier with the financials that you know that that helps kind of build um. uh fill that gap I guess of where we’re at as far as behind budget at this point. Jeremy also included in your packet um comparison parking rates from around the state.

00:16:12,230	Not that we’re necessarily competing with or trying to keep up with, but for the vast audience that’s watching at home uh, be, might be curious to know that Fargo parking ramps, excuse me, run from $115 to $140 a month.

00:16:32,700	Grand Forks, uh, 55 to 65 with the reserve spaces starting at $100 might not ramps are $70 a month. Sioux Falls, $72 to $87 a month. So we’re kind of a bargain at $64. We’re still profitable. That’s good because we don’t have any debt right now. Um, but I would think a $2 increase at least would be in order.

00:16:58,100	What are your thoughts, everybody? If you’re looking for a motion to increase the monthly rate to $66 I would make that motion. er second. Moved and seconded that we increase the monthly from 64 to $66. Um, anything else with that, Germany, are the hourly? Do you wants to do them separately? So we, Mr.

00:17:18,270	Chair, Torry Bur members, that’s, I guess up to you guys if you wanna to do those separately, but I, management’s recommendation is no change for the hourly rates, um, but then we, we should revisit the Rams rooftop rate and I guess correspondingly go up $2 on that as well.

00:17:35,000	OK, let’s take them 11 at a time since we have a motion in a second. Um, any further discussion on the motion? If not, call the roll, please, Sue. John, yes, Josh, Todd, Jake, Jim, yes, that motion carries. OK, let’s take the rooftop right next. Jeremy. Um, so Mr.

00:17:55,270	Chair, authority board members are, we do a discounted rate for the rooftop, uh, since it is not covered and you’re exposed to the elements in the winter and potential, you know, summer uh, elements and hail and rain and whatnot.

00:18:12,530	So we do uh a discount rate just specifically for the rooftops at the Rams, uh, and our, uh, current, uh, rooftop rate is $40 per month with exception to the um. uh Galleria Yeah, do you have a recommendation? Uh, I, I, I guess from management standpoint we would recommend just a $2 per month increase on the rooftop rate as well.

00:18:33,100	What are your wishes Motion to approve $2. Jake moves a motion to approve $2 or a second Todd seconds. Any further discussion? If not, call the roll on that one, please, Sue. John? Yes. Josh. Todd, Jake, Jim. Yes, that motion carries, and then what was the third item you wanted to motion on? Sorry.

00:18:50,870	Oh, just the, if, if hourly rates would be staying the same. Any discussion on hourly? The recommendation is to leave them at $1.01 dollar 50 cents. And is there any input at all from the Dawnur. OK. Thank you, Kate.

00:19:14,730	So, what are your, uh, wishes on hourly rates? Leave them alone There a motion to leave them unchanged John, there a second? Any further discussion Hearing none, Call the roll, please, Sue John, yes, Josh, Todd, Jake, Jim. Yes, that motion carries Um, Jeremy, I noticed you, you included in the packet, uh, proposed capital projects. for next year which follows right on the rate increase, of course.

00:19:45,370	People wonder why we have to keep raising our rates. I, yes, Mr. Chair, authority board members, I, I’m yeah, I neglected to mention that that was included, reincluded in your packet two as just a reference page of what our potential, uh, cost would be for next year and uh as I explained on the traffic coding though that isn’t

00:20:03,500	necessarily a, you know, we wouldn’t have to do that all at one shot. We’ve been doing that kind of one at a time. Right. One off. But just, just for illustration purposes of what we’d be looking at, you know, roughly about another million dollars in total capex or, you know, the next few years, so

00:20:19,370	security, the breakdown of security camera upgrades is approximately 150,000 estimate, 3rd Street ramp elevator controls, upgrades 100,000 and we should note that the 3rd Street elevator is 30 years old, 35 years old. 1991. Probly closer to 50. No, not the 3rd. That was built in ’91. 0, OK, yeah. 9192.

00:20:43,370	And then if we did all the, the, uh, coding levels in the parquet at once it’s about 3/4 of a million dollars, so. and these are just things that we need and want to do. There, there’s no surprises built in here for Right surprises So.

00:21:02,630	and you’re not necessarily looking Go ahead, Jeremy. Oh, Mr. Chair, authority, uh, Sue had just reminded me that, um, that these rates when, when they are presuming they would take effect January 1. That’s historically what we’ve done. Yeah. That’s fine. Yeah, and you’re not looking for approval today on these other capital items or any of them? Not looking for approval, just reference.

00:21:21,870	I think you should probably bring it back at the next meeting and we should start making plans to, to. get those on the books for next year. Anything else on those items, anybody? We’re on that, uh, agenda item.

00:21:41,270	If not, item 6 on the agenda is the uh management agreement with Rocky Gordon and Company that does come up for renewal or discussion it runs through the end of this year, correct? December 31, 2025 is when it would expire if we take no action. OK.

00:22:03,000	And the contract allows us to renew 2 1-year options and have we done one? so, uh, Mr. Chair, authority board members on the management agreement that was in your packet. There’s, um, there was a clerical typo on the end date stated December 2026, but that would is actually 2025 because the original intent was for 24 months, uh, of the initial, um, contract agreement and then 21

00:22:23,870	year additional uh 21-year options thereafter. So the first one year option would go into effect January of 2026. Thoughts, comments, wishes from the authority Dodd If we’re going to, yes, sure. yep. First I’ll ask Jeremy, do you want it? Great, great question.

00:22:55,370	Yes, we, we would, uh, be very, we would be proud to take on the role again, uh, couple, couple of soundbites actually that I’d, um, if I may, I just wanted to mention that as Rocky Gordon Company, we’ve been managing the parking ramps on behalf of the city for the last, uh, 28 years, and we’ve demons demonstrated consistent track

00:23:12,370	record of providing reliable, uh, customer service for the city and the citizen parking customers. Uh, we pride ourselves in managing with integrity and being good stewards for the property, for the city. Uh, we’ve demonstrated some fiscal management, and we work well with various organizations and stakeholders within the city.

00:23:31,530	Do you want to mention anything about making sure Kate stays on the don toners, so you can work with her. No. Kate has been invaluable. Thank you, Kate. That’s for sure. That being said, I’ll make a motion for a one-year extension. Is there a second? Second. OK, moved and seconded.

00:23:52,370	Any further discussion on that item? If not, call the roll, please suee. John, yes, Josh, yes, Todd, Jake. Yes. Jim. Yes, that motion carries item 7 on the agenda is Josh’s term expires at the end of this calendar year. and if Josh wishes to continue, Josh has to go onto the city website and reapply, I think is the way the process works.

00:24:17,000	Mayor, correct? That’s correct. So, have you thought about this or? you don’t have to tell us, I guess. So you still have to be approved by the powers upstairs. So. uh, but if anybody else, you know, if anybody knows anybody that wants to apply. encourage them to, to go on the city website and do that.

00:24:35,070	We’re always looking for fresh meat, I mean, fresh blood. Sorry about that. All right. Um, other business for the good of the order. Anybody have anything? Oh, Kate, any reports from the Downtowners.

00:25:00,170	If you’ve got anything going on? I got one minute left Oh Uh, thanks, Chair, uh, and authority members, just a couple of quick things, um, wanna say thanks to the staff and everybody. It was a great street fair. We work really well with Jeremy and the crew, and I just want to say thanks again.

00:25:14,170	We had to move some valet stuff around just because it gets, we use that parking lot, um, Sanford’s parking lot, and they accommodate that very nicely. So I appreciate that and all the work, um, that they did. Uh, just a couple things for kind of the holiday season and I let Jeremy and Jim know this, but, um, we’ve historically put lights up in the ramp in the parade.

00:25:29,270	We have, um, power distribution cart that we can pull from our power boxes up the alley and we kind of running up the side of the building and then they have the lights that they hang and plug in. We had talked before and I think you had mentioned this, uh, Mr.

00:25:44,000	Chair, that, um, the 3rd Street ramp would be nice to light up, although we didn’t have any power or distribution in that area. And I think, and Jeremy, correct me if I’m wrong that you guys have done that or it’s being done.

00:26:00,630	um, the electrician actually has told us he’ll have that hooked up and hopefully um by before the end of the month of this month, 4 and 3rd Street, so, um. Will that be like permanent box type thing or just temporary permanent. So we can, good, good, good, good. So that’ll be great. It’s a big corner and it’s a big building, which would be nice to light up.

00:26:15,100	do you, uh, envision the third and main ramp being like both sides, 3rd and main, on one level or all levels or what do you, do you know where you’re at on that? It probably would be easiest to do the south side because the actually the West side has all these step ups and the south side is actually flat, so I mean you

00:26:30,000	could do the West side, but it’d probably be a little bit more. just be a little bit diff more difficult. Start somewhere. Yeah. Rome wasn’t built to day. It’d be nice to have that whole dark gray structure later at night.

00:26:42,870	And we did send some lights from some other downtowns that they use that can change colors and yeah, yeah, um, so you don’t have to keep taking them up and putting, putting down different ones.

00:26:55,000	And then on the Par, we’re still just doing the one, the first level above? No, we do the, the whole, the whole, they do the whole shebang on the one side, um West, y, and it looks really nice. And then, um, just one other thing on the 3rd Street ramp.

00:27:11,730	We did that small planting area along there, um, we went and did a weeding day in August, that Pears Lane is really, uh, aggressive. So we went and pulled a bunch of that out. We’re going to do that again, I think on Tuesday. So we’ll have some volunteers out there cleaning up that area.

00:27:24,900	And if, if we finish that, we’ll try and get around to the other areas of the ramp as well, um, just so that looks good before the winter. Thanks for taking responsibility and doing that. We appreciate it very much so. Thank you. Anything else? OK. Thanks, Kate Anyone have anything else for the good of the order? Mayor, anything OK, if there’s no objection, we stand Adjourned until uh, when’s the next meeting? November 13th Thanks, everybody. Thanks,