00:00:11,730	It is now 3 p.m. by my watch, and today is August 20th, 2025 at 3 p.m. and we are in the Tom Baker meeting room to conduct the Bismarck Historic Preservation Commission meeting.

00:00:36,000	So Annie, will you call the roll, please? Comm Zenker Comm Hall, here, Comm Perley, Commissionerackerson here, Vice Chair Nodland, here OK, so, um, we have a few absent people, but that’s fine. We, we, we have a new item, a new addition to the Commission’s agenda. and Lauren’s gonna come up and, and summarize that for us.

00:01:01,600	Uh, thank you, Vice Chair Dodlin, uh, Comm, as you can see on your agenda, we do have the addition of the public comment policy. um this is uh an addition on all boards and commissions, uh, that the city of Bismarck has under their jurisdiction, um, so the addition of the public comment policy section on the agenda is in response to a recently approved state Senate bill, 2180, as well as the city commission’s direction on the

00:01:26,000	public Comm policy that you see before you. Um, this will be attached to each agenda, and it’s the first non-procedural agenda item. um, for all regular meetings, members, uh, from the public will have the opportunity to provide comments on all regular agenda items, as well as comment on the prior

00:01:45,730	agendas, items as well. Do you have any questions Thank you I’ll pass it around this way. and see. Thank you, Lauren but that the public comment period is open to anyone in the public. Um, I don’t believe there’s anyone in the room. Is there anyone on online? Nope.

00:02:13,630	All right, so, uh, with close the public comment period. Um, the next thing up on our agenda, uh, 1B is approval of the meeting minutes for June, uh, 2025, I moved to approve. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? I have one small comment on the page 1 of 3 in the last paragraph at the bottom.

00:02:46,270	um I wasn’t here, so I’m just asking this question. It says that, uh, the, the ship overlaid that a permanent person is required to monitor. I think that probably is permitted. Correct. Yeah. So that with that minor does anyone else have any other corrections or comments? with so we have a motion. Oh.

00:03:15,530	uh, Comm Zenker has made a motion to approve with the change. And I will second it. All right. Any discussion? Comm Perley Yes, Comm Hall. Yes, Comm Z Zenker. Yes, Commissionerakerson, yes, Vice Chair Nodland, yes.

00:03:48,100	All right, the motion passes OK, now we move on to the regular agenda items, uh, the first one that we’re gonna consider is the uh 2003 historic Preservation Fund grant updates. So we’re hear from Lauren. Uh, thank you again, Vice Chair Nolin and Commissioners.

00:04:24,900	Uh, this item I’m on, uh, that you can see up on the screen here, um, is related to the 2023 Historic Preservation Grant, um, specifically, uh, the banners within the historic districts that are proposed to be put up, um, just some updates on that, uh, both the banners for the cathedral area in the Highland Acres Historic Districts are currently being produced. Um, the next step and final step for them, uh, will be the installation of those.

00:04:43,330	Um, that will occur within the next month. Um, a notice was previously published when we installed the first round of banners within the Highland Acres historic District. um, staff just, uh, asked if the historic Preservation Commission would like to do something like this again.

00:05:04,970	Um, as you can see up here, there’s an example of, uh, what one of those notices on the social media platforms look like, um, just so the public’s aware of what’s happening and what’s going on in their neighborhoods. Um, so, uh, staff would ask, uh, that the historic Preservation Commission determined if they’d like to provide another notice for this I think just a consensus would be fine.

00:05:26,430	I’d agree with that OK. Yeah, I think we would, and you have another item, right, that you want us to, OK, uh, and then the, uh, second item, the brochures for the Highland Acres Historic District have been produced, so we do have copies of them uh available in our department up at Community

00:05:48,800	Development. Um, however, uh, there should be some sort of way that we can distribute it out to the community, um, and staff would ask that the historic preservation discussed how they would like to distribute them. Thank you, Lauren. OK, so there’s two things for us to consider.

00:06:09,530	One is the notice to uh via the city website, social media. um and if any other method, and then the and the second one is how to distribute the brochures.

00:06:42,170	Well, on the first, on uh, vice chair chair Um, no, I, if, if it’s all right to do a sort of an we all agree that that um it’s fine for the city to put that notification out on on those platforms. If we can take care of that one by a nod and a shake here.

00:06:59,800	Um, well, and I think we did, so I get we didn’t know, I don’t think we recorded it or did we record? Lauren, Lauren, Lauren did. I, I think just a I don’t think we need a formal motion or Commissioneracherson for this one. I think just consensus. OK, got that one.

00:07:16,330	But my question, I guess, is, uh, it, I, I have a question on that one for you, Lauren. Um, do you do, uh, any kind of a notice, uh, to the residents of Highland Acres, specifically, or is this just on the digital platforms. Uh, uh, Vice Chair Noddland Commissioners, uh, we didn’t previously put out a notice specifically to each individual property owner.

00:07:36,000	It was just through these, uh, channels that we did. OK. I just was curious cause then we could include a map if we were sending a paper notice, but Miss Perley, Chair Noddlin, I, uh, North Dakota tourism has a brochure distribution program, uh, that people can enter in kind of a partnership with them.

00:07:57,970	uh, that they’re placed in, um rest areas and other, other people who sign up to it, you know, whether it’s hotels or whatever they get in here and they can use it by placing them in the uh brochure racks with other things that that might be

00:08:11,270	one thing to consider as far as how we can get it distributed. I, I don’t know the cost of that for cost share or anything like that, but it is an option.

00:08:24,800	So I we, should we make a list? Do you have a, can you start a list for us? So I think we have the North if see if North Dakota tourism has a way to um incorporate it in any of their packets that go out, specifically, I guess related to Bismarck.

00:08:48,100	I have a few, um, the Chamber of Commerce Visitor Center, the library, the um hotels have racks, so maybe the downtown hotels that have card racks for tourist destinations in the heritage center as well. The heritage center does. the, uh, I don’t know if they will take them or not, but the riverboat center has some brochures there. I don’t know if they have our other walking tour maps.

00:09:07,230	um BSC probably has some place that they could distribute them because of they’re right there next to us, the students might appreciate that. Capital have something? I don’t. So, just in the, in the entryway there? I think they used to. I don’t know if they haven’t been in. but that’s something to check.

00:09:23,470	So, is there a list, a distribution list that we’ve used for our other um our other walking tour maps. Uh, Vice Chair Nodland Comm if we have, I don’t have it in our records that we did it, um.

00:09:43,800	I, I’m wondering if the last time they were handed out for the first time that both the Downtown and cathedral ones were handed out. If they were handed out at events or if commissioners themselves took them and and handed them out elsewhere.

00:10:08,170	Yeah, Chain onland, um I do know that with the distribution of the first two that mostly people seem to take them around and leave them places. um, it was kind of informal as I recall. Yeah, um, and the library, of course always is a place to put those, to put those things, but yeah, I, I recall going around myself and taking a lot of them here and a lot of them there.

00:10:30,600	um, pretty off the cuff, but then people knew where they where to get them if they needed to have more, and that was at the city. and I’m assuming people come in because they, you have a pocket and they seem to walk out of that pocket.

00:10:48,900	so I, I know that it. people that are aware of them know that they can get more here. So I guess if we could informally take a, take a walk and take them somewhere. I’d be happy to do. I’d be happy to do that. I would take a stack around. Comm Hall.

00:11:09,170	Uh, Chair Island, I’d also recommend the former governor’s mansion site. I know they have a area for brochures there Yeah Also Camp Hancock, I mean, any of the historic sites I know would be willing to, to put those and have the have the space for them or the place for them.

00:11:30,500	Can I ask a question here of everybody, who are they intended for? Are they intended for, for locals or for tourists? I’m just curious. Both. So, uh, another question that I have is is there a way through Highland Acre School to distribute them to the Highland Acres Nes neighborhoods and or are there events in that area that would be logical distribution points

00:11:54,970	for them, if they’re for the locals too, so they could if they have visitors, they could alert, uh, you know, notify them or. make those tour maps available to them too.

00:12:11,600	Just trying to figure out who I would think everybody in the neighborhood would appreciate them and the school might be a, you know, a spot to get them out. There are community organizers that were working on a concert that summer concert series, they may be, they may be people who would who.

00:12:38,730	are already community outreaching there that would be willing to, to, to distribute some of those for me so Does the civic centerer have pamphlets? Cause that’d be a good, good way for tourists. I know. How about a, like the is there, are there packets that I go out for Bismarck specifically for conference marketing? Well, the League of Cities um.

00:13:02,270	people sometimes do that for different things, so that’s another So that’s, so how is that first lists to get started with? And if we all volunteer to take a stack and uh and and or ask other people to take stacks around. you know, Nehood people you do you think it’s, it’s worth me reaching out to Mike Jensen at Tourism to check on the grocery distribution.

00:13:23,000	Please Uh, Comm Ondland, um there are a lot of those, uh, little, um little free libraries. Um, those are really good places to put brochures and we’ve done that, we did that quite a lot when we were.

00:13:52,000	distributing the first bunch, just put them in any of those because those are people who are walking around looking in there. Oh, that’s very good. Well, that’s a great list to start with. Is that OK All right I don’t think there’s any action that needs a vote on that. So then the next item on the agenda is the 2024 historic Preservation Fund grant update.

00:14:28,170	Or Uh, vice chair Noland and Commissioners are consultant, um, Southfork Historical Research has completed and submitted the North Dakota Cultural Resource Surveys site Forums, um, for the 1st 20 properties within the survey area. The site forms have been provided to the historic Preservation for content and quality control.

00:14:49,630	Um, these were sent earlier, um, before the media since there was such a lot to review for those. Um, once the consultant has received comments and or corrections from this commission, uh, they will be sent to the State Historic Preservation Office for review in order to stay within the set timeline for the gre uh agreed upon, um, timeline that, uh, between the consultant and the city staff will need any

00:15:11,530	comments from this commission. Um that the commission may have no later than tomorrow, 5 p.m. if possible. Uh, a letter from the consultant, including a summary table of the 1st 20 sites was attached, um, to this agenda and provided to you prior to this meeting.

00:15:32,430	That is also, uh, at least the, the table is included on the screen in front of you, um, just kind of highlighting some of the key components, uh, from those 20 site forms. Um, the initial site forms were more thoroughly researched than is typical of a class 2 reconnaissance survey.

00:15:51,530	Um, however, in order to keep within the agreed upon scope of the project, the remaining properties, um, that this commission will see site forms for will only be evaluated as reconnaissance level efforts at Ford.

00:16:12,270	Emily with South Fork Historical Research has provided a draft example of what a typical site form for those reconnaissance level surveys will look like. Um, if you like a copy, I can provide. that to you. Um, the reconnaissance level surveys will establish just basic characteristics and trends within the survey area and the information gathered will only be sufficient to recommend eligibility in reference to a potential district.

00:16:37,500	Um, so the recommended action for this commission today is to review and provide feedback on the submitted site forms to the consultant. Uh, Emily with Southfork Historical Research is here if you have any questions as well.

00:17:00,070	Thank you, Lauren So our action today is to review and provide feedback and uh has every everyone had a chance to look at this site forms. OK, so everyone has, so, uh, we have till 5 p.m. tomorrow, but if we can do it today, let’s see if we can do that, unless anybody has extensive comments they want to provide. Chair, not. I just have one question. Wait.

00:17:18,000	Wait, could we. Oh, sorry. OK. We’ll bring Emily up in a minute. OK. So, do you have, do we have anything that we have any questions? No? OK, so, um we will know, I mean, we uh we’ll invite up Southfork consultant Emily Sackerson, and, um, do you, would you like to give us a small, a short explanation of

00:17:44,270	what of what you’ve what you’ve presented today and then we will have questions for you, uh, Vice Chair Nodland and Commissioners. Um, absolutely, I can do that. And um thank you for having me here and for taking the time to review all that work.

00:18:03,900	Um, this is a really fun project for me as a Bismarck native and history enthusiast. Not everyday you get to do your job in your hometown. Um, so the reconnaissance survey sample. of 20 properties is what I prepared and what you would have reviewed, um.

00:18:32,700	as Lauren explained, and as my cover letter explained, these were um, closer to an intensive level effort for the sample, and I wanted an opportunity to explain to you that I chose to do that, um, I discussed it with Lauren, um, and Chair Demida as um an approach to orienting myself to the history of the neighborhood.

00:18:56,230	I specifically chose to do the 2 oldest based on the cities, um, construction dates that were provided, which some of which I’ve been able to find are incorrect or were kind of miscategorized or what have you.

00:19:14,270	But I started with the 2 oldest from that list to give myself the opportunity to familiarize myself with what’s primary and secondary sources are there to develop that historical context, learn about the neighborhood, kind of chronologically before assessing the rest, uh, and so why not put that information that I found out into these site forms that just makes sense to share it. um and so that’s why they’re a little bit more thorough.

00:19:27,800	There’s a little bit more about the different people associated with each property, which isn’t standard for a reconnaissance survey of uh potential historic district, um, hopefully I’ll find information in more expedient ways to identify other important people in that neighborhood through the Reconnaissance effort, but I, I want you to know that the reconnaissance level forms

00:19:49,530	moving forward for the other 180 properties will be a little bit lighter in content. Um, I don’t want anybody to have, um, a misunderstanding of what the sample survey represents.

00:20:11,530	So I did prepare is this, can we show that the reconnaissance example, basically the next one on my list, um, just to show you a difference, if you’ve already reviewed the other 2 forms, uh, you’ll just note that everything’s pretty much the same, except on the site summary. page.

00:20:31,730	So here’s the feature description, that’ll be pretty much the same as in the other properties, maybe a little shorter because I’m going, um, maybe just a little bit more quickly. to stay in budget and time frame. But the summary where I’ve been putting historical background on each property will be you know, rather than an an entire attachment page. It’ll more likely remain within that box that’s in the fillable form. I’d be maybe 2 to 3 paragraphs.

00:20:52,600	um I will not be going to the deeds, uh, like I did with the 1st 2 to find out the very first owner, um, I do have some really great resources at my fingertips to try to provide, um, some historical information in a really efficient way.

00:21:10,100	I’ve got, um, a PDF of the 1908 City Directory, for example, that I’ve been able to make word searchable. So if the property dates to before 1908, should be able to get, you know, from 1908 very quickly who the proper ty owner or resident or renters may have been, and, um, within the time available for

00:21:29,500	me, I will try to do that with the other city directories, 1928 through the 1930s just won’t be as quick because it’s not word searchable. Um, and, you know, I might be able to follow up a few things with, uh, newspaper articles, but it certainly won’t be to the level of description.

00:21:49,100	I was, I was able to provide for these 20. It will be sufficient, however, to make the uh required recommendation for whether or not these properties have integrity and would, um, convey their historic character look enough like they did in the historic period. uh, to recommend whether they’d be contributing or non-contributing to a potential district.

00:22:13,370	and um so that’s, I mean, that’ll follow the basic scope from what we originally. I just went a little beyond that for the 1st 20. Um, does anybody have any questions about that or anything else because um I’ve got lots to say. I’d like to say I think you did a great job.

00:22:28,100	Um, I appreciate that you put in the extra effort on these, the oldest ones. Um, that was really interesting. Um, I, I, you answered my question. I wanted to know how many additional ones you had left to go, which was, you said 180 more to go.

00:22:46,230	Is that correct? Yeah, I think the total number is 201 or something and I submitted 20, so, OK, cool. So I know we have questions, Comm Hall. Uh, so yeah, I agree with Chair Idland where they look great, um, you know, having worked on those uh much better than I could have done easily.

00:23:06,530	Um, but, uh, the question was, you know, both for commission, maybe also personal knowledge of, um, on the page two of the site form where it’s, uh, you know, feature preservation recommendations a little checklist.

00:23:24,630	Um, this might be a question for you, might be a question for Lornette Chippo, um, but I was wondering why some of the site forms had it where like there’s certain categories where they’re, you know, for like individual nominations, clearly for that site, and others are, you know, say like, we’ll not contribute to a district is for, uh, district potential, um, so I wasn’t sure, I don’t know if you have the answer for why some have some address.

00:23:42,370	you know, individual nominations, some address I, I remember some of them wives, not all of them had both categories addressed. Sure. So, Comm Hall, the, uh, future recommendations. is a is a selected list, um, to recommend something as individually eligible, would require an intensive level. And I think on see, I’ve got my summary table.

00:24:12,230	There were one maybe just one property in this 20 that because I did a little extra research, like I had explained, I did feel like there was enough to say that this should be noticed by Shippo as a as a potentially individually eligible property. And that’s the um Dr Porterhouse at, uh, 8:24.

00:24:30,270	Northforth Street Um so that’s why that one’s checked. It’s because the research was there. I thought, um, Shippo should know that I thought the research was there for it to be individually eligible beyond just the parameters of this project.

00:24:53,900	Um, and with regards to uh, any other sites where it’s um, contributing and marked as like intensive or reconnaissance on some of these, I marked the first page. intensive here where where you mark whether or not it’s an intensive or reconnaissance, and I did reach out to Shippo to clarify for consistency in the project.

00:25:19,530	If you’d prefer me to refer to what the level of effort the whole project is, which is a reconnaissance. I can change them all to be reconnaissance. Um, it’s just supposed to indicate to Chape whether or not, um basically the research has been exhausted. Yeah. OK, thanks.

00:25:36,100	No, I was just wondering if like, you know, what differentiating between Es well and I guess if it’s not checked, it just means if it’s not addressed, it’s unevaluated. Yeah, if it’s not been checked under individually eligible, means there’s not enough information there, so somebody would have to do more research to to make a recommendation that doesn’t mean it’s not.

00:25:51,100	Um that that was, yeah, it was that answer? Yes, I was getting grief for that, so thank you. OK. Do any other commissioners have questions? Um, may I offer one more comment? Um, I would like it noted that this is a preliminary evaluation for these 20 on the table. Um, my summary isn’t a preliminary evaluation. It’s very possible.

00:26:16,630	This is just 20 out of the whole neighborhood. Um, and the proposed boundaries are somewhat arbitrary and so my, my management recommendations for where a potential district might change the more I learn from the rest of the survey.

00:26:35,370	And so at that point, at the end of everything, I might reassess or, um, revisit some of these and maybe it’s beyond what I think is an actual period of significance. Uh, maybe it’s something that was built outside. For example, St.

00:26:58,870	George’s is a mid-century building, um maybe in the end, there’ll be parameters for recommended uh, eligible district that has a cut-off date before the mid-century, in which case I’d revisit this and I would maybe revise and say it’s non-contributing because of that. Um so I just wanted to throw that out there. that the parameters may change, and I’ll be assessing as they go. Are you limiting yourself to one time period for the for this district? No, not necessarily.

00:27:18,070	Just I don’t have enough information yet, um, to really provide a, a confident, um, evaluation of whether something would be contributing or non-contributing till I understand the whole potential for district.

00:27:33,500	Does, does that make sense? Yeah, it seems like if you, if just if you’re looking at the oldest in this core area in 15 of them out of 20 are. potentially contributing you know, that’s a safe bet, yeah that’s a pretty good bet.

00:27:52,370	But that’s, you’re, you’re looking at a particular narrow time period there as well, but maybe in your whole district, you have multiple time periods, so Saint George’s would fit in there still, but. Yes, it’s very possible and it, and it’ll just depend on how the data all washes out on how much integrity properties have, and maybe we’ll identify that there’s some threats that have affected the likelihood of certain time periods or areas

00:28:10,900	of significance. So what are your next steps Uh, next steps are to continue with the other 180 sites. All of the all the field work has been conducted with the exception of two properties.

00:28:29,900	Um, I’ve been waiting for a good time to photograph the library when it’s not full of cars in the parking lot, and I just haven’t found a good evening to do that. Um, and then also Wilmore Elementary School. When I was doing the field work the week that I carved out to do the photographs. I, um I I noticed there was a lot of programming going on on the school grounds, and I did not feel comfortable.

00:28:46,070	I didn’t think people would really want me taking photographs with, with all the children on the playground. And so I’m going to plan an evening visit to Wilmore Elementary School as well to get the photographs when I can more reliably, you know, respect people’s privacy, um, and take

00:29:01,070	the photographs for those two sites, all the others have been documented, and so it’s just a matter of assembling the forms and starting to do the research and writing on each individual proper ty to the reconnaissance level.

00:29:20,730	So have you submitted these 20 to the? No, um, you guys have the first look at them and then per our um contract, uh, once I’ve got your comments, I have, I think, um, 2 weeks, something like that to turn it around and submit it to Shippo.

00:29:39,000	I think September 1st is maybe when I’d have to look back in my notes, but um, I’ll send them to get comments back from them probably and then have to address those and so, OK. Yes. And that’ll go be ongoing at the same time that you’re working on the next, so. Yes. And, um, in other projects I have had, uh, I have submitted site forms in batches of maybe 25 or 30 at a time.

00:29:56,000	And what I actually kind of like about the design of this one is I realized it might be more to review at once at the end of the project, but it does give me that opportunity to learn as I go and define and redef ine what might be, um, the areas of significance, the periods of significance, uh, and make

00:30:12,800	final recommendations all at once and not have to go back and redo work, uh, if that makes sense to you. So, um, I’ll just keep working and working and working on these sites. Yeah. So does, does anybody have and you have uh I have, I have a, a question.

00:30:28,600	Have you, um, out of curiosity because I having been out in neighborhoods doing surveys. Have you had any, um interaction um, with, with the in with the homeowners. that uh have, have been surprising. I mean, have people been receptive if they’ve seen, they’ve seen you out there. That’s something that we need to, to keep track of.

00:30:56,900	Yeah, thank you for that question, um, Comm Sackerson, I have had interactions with, uh, residents of the neighborhood, not a whole lot, but, um, a number of very pleasant conversations. People seem very interested. They’re curious, um, maybe a little leery at first.

00:31:15,630	Why do you have a camera in my front yard, well, on the sidewalk, um, which is, you know, run of the mill for my line of work. Uh, and so, uh, once the conversation starts, they always seem interested in the project and they want to share something about their home, how long they’ve lived there, that they love this neighborhood.

00:31:32,530	Um, I’ve had a few offers for to provide some historical photographs, um, which is great and some past residents of the neighborhood, people who grew up in the neighborhood have shared with me some historical photographs, um, to incorporate in the report, um so things have been positive with the, with the few interactions I’ve had, um yeah, nobody’s been upset or or

00:31:57,800	concerned. Well maybe Noah and, um, in all fairness, the, uh, the response has been positive. And also, uh, the survey results Lauren has been sharing with me, uh, the survey that was sent out to property owners if they wanted to share information they have.

00:32:24,430	I have received some of those, um, not much for the sample survey, but, uh, for houses that I have not written up yet, and I’m saving those to my site files, and I will be, um, attaching them to the site form to be submitted to Shippo, so their words will actually be there, um, and then also I’ll incorporate any of the information if it’s pertinent or relevant to what I

00:32:41,500	need to write about. Um, and so that’s nice. Yeah. Chanadlan in Emily, you guys probably all know this, but I don’t, uh, if you could just let me know, um when you have the non non-contributing, um, what would cause a property in there to be non-contributing and how does getting that label, um,

00:33:04,100	affect this whole, the whole area. Uh, does it have any kind of impact on whether or not you make it a historical district or not or I’m happy to answer that question for you. Um, Comm Pursley, um I’ll be referring to National Register Bulletin 46, which gives additional guidance for evaluating properties that are historic residential suburbs.

00:33:30,730	Uh, there’s some additional guidance for assessing integrity in terms of a larger hole when you’ve got multiple properties, multiple sites that contribute to a whole, like a district. Um, and it gives some really helpful um, guidance for how to assess the integrity of the property.

00:33:51,000	There are 7 aspects of integrity that the National Park Service through the National Register Program looks for, uh, to be retained by the property in order for it to be eligible, uh, in addition to having significance, um, and so it’s things like materials, does it still have the original materials? Does it convey its original design? Is the setting much the same, um, and so each

00:34:11,230	individual property will be looked at for its retention of those qualities, uh, things like major additions that are visible from the right of way, uh, things like replacement of historic siding with something that’s not sympathetic, uh, something like replacement of all the windows or an enlargement of windows, um, things like that have an effect

00:34:32,530	when you look at them cumulatively on those qualities and so some of those things will, will maybe make a property not eligible, non-contributing to the district. Also, if it turns out that the data supports a certain time frame for the properties.

00:34:55,070	uh, thematically if a property falls outside of that period of significance, then maybe you’d be non-contributing And what a non-contributing status just means is, um, you’re still within a historic district, but you do not have the benefits for like potential for grants for restoration, things like that.

00:35:16,970	Um, properties can lose that status as a contributing property and become non-contributing if it’s ever resurveyed in the future. So it’s all about this point in time. um, and then. uh, overall for the, for the sake of the project, if it turns out that not enough of the properties have integrity to be contributing. then you wouldn’t be able to argue for a district.

00:35:38,270	You need to have a majority properties contributing within a district for it to be listed in the National Register. And I would add, as, as we’ve seen in I think at least one of these properties you recommending or somebody previously said it was non-contributing or non-eligible. You’re, you’re making the case that it maybe is.

00:35:59,100	So it, it can go depending on what you, if you maybe take off the siding and see what what’s underneath. I mean, there’s other ways that it can go from being non-contributing to contributing, but and I, I will say that I have noticed in this neighborhood, there are some property owners who have either recently completed or

00:36:17,230	are doing restoration work and not necessarily rehabilitation work or, or new construction, but are actually actively trying to restore something to its original character or save, um, some of the historic materials. I have seen that going on in this neighborhood.

00:36:35,500	Um, the Dr Porterhouse is a great example Um, but also I have seen, I mean, since I did my field work, one of the house’s windows was replaced. Uh, that was a non-contributing and non-eligible property already because of other alterations. It’s the Ordway House, but, um they replaced the windows after I’ve already done the work. So it’s a sliding scale.

00:36:54,730	It’s, it’s not a perfect system, but it’s meant to to be guidance for for measuring whether or not this place has what it takes to be on the National Register. Thank you. Does anyone else have any questions or comments? OK, thank you, Emily. That was wonderful. Yeah, thank you. This is so fun.

00:37:21,270	All right, does, does anybody feel like they need till another day to read or to comment or can we can we say that what we have asked and, and commented on today. will serve as our HBC comment on it. You’ve been. I’m, I’m. You OK with that? Yeah, I’m OK.

00:37:48,600	I, I have, um have a, a list of a couple of typos, but that’s, that’s not enough to to hold up any, you know. So I don’t see. We’re going We’re here We’re, that you asked us for an action, but would you like us to, uh, to move to uh that we have provided our feedback on the 1st 1st round submissions.

00:38:06,270	Vice Chair Noddland Comm, I, I think if this was your comment here, I think that’s fine. If you have any of those edits for typos or something. that would be another thing you could send to me that I could provide to Emily as well. Um, yeah, but no, no formal motion.

00:38:26,100	Do you have any questions for us beyond what we’ve asked or commented today. Uh, Vice Chair Noddlin and Commissioners, I do not have any questions for you at this time. I was just really hoping to get some feedback. And if there are typos and things like that, I believe it.

00:38:48,730	Uh, and I will address them promptly if they’re provided to Lauren and she can get them to me. I’ll make sure that I revise those things before I submit to Shippo. Thank you. All right. Are you guys comfortable that you have what you need? OK, all right, we will move on to our next agenda item.

00:39:09,270	which is the 250th anniversary of the founding of the US the USA and OK, who can say it? It’s like a semisennial. We had to learn how to say the other one. What’s this one? No, uh, Vice Chair Nodlin Commissioners, I believe it’s semi-quicentennial. I, I could be wrong on that. It took me a while, but like Quinson Daniels.

00:39:33,800	That sounds right. Uh, so this’ll be coming up, uh, within our community as appoint of discussion, but I figured the historic Preservation Commission should get on top of this discussion, um, I, and what their role would be for this, um, celebration next year.

00:39:58,730	So the United States will be celebrating the 250th anniversary of its founding in 2026. Several groups around the community are already beginning to plan for this event. Um, although those efforts and celebrations may not be specific to Bismarck history.

00:40:19,000	Um, there is still an opportunity to engage with members of the community, um, and implement some of our goals, uh, for this commission, and specifically to foster civic pri de in the accomplishments of the past. Um, there could be some tie-ins locally if necessary.

00:40:40,630	Um, staff have reached out to others, including, uh, the city administration department and the Bismarck Historical Society so far, um, to see if there’s any opportunity to partner with and or support current efforts, um, some other partnership opportunities may include working with organizations like the Downtowners, Dakota West Arts Council Um, Norther Plas Heritage Foundation among just a few. Um, information related to the America 250 tour. I believe it’s one of two.

00:41:08,730	I could be wrong, um, on that, but, uh, that information on the America 250 tour as well as some other potential grant opportunities are provided in the Agenda packet. Um, I’ll just give a quick overview on there was a lot of information included in this agenda item for these, uh, items here.

00:41:31,100	So the America 250 tour, um, the current entity who’s reached out to uh staff with the city, um, they, I believe, are a private group that’s still implementing initiatives of the federal group. Um, so there’s a bit of a partnership, but it’s slightly separate, if that makes sense.

00:41:56,230	And so the goal of them is to have a feature special events like a traveling exhibit presentations, patriotic festivals or events, um, the group anticipates bringing that event to Bismarck around September 9th to September 13th, however, those dates are just preliminary at this point. They haven’t set those yet.

00:42:21,270	Um, what they would be looking for from the local group or organization who would be partnering with them potentially would be a collaboration, and that could include curating local history exhibits, promoting events, and partnering on educational field trips with local school districts. Um, nothing’s been decided yet on the partnership that I’m aware of, um, I think it’s still in discussion at this point.

00:42:45,900	um the two grant opportunities that are provided for in your packet with just some information that was pulled out of the RFP and notice for funding for both of them, um. the first one is the North Dakota 250 uh community initiatives grant. Um, that one is state funded.

00:43:12,000	Uh, it provides up to $10,000 per application, um, and it has a 20% match, um, but that could be cash or in kind, so in kind donated labor, in kind donated equipment, um, what we typically do for historic preservation fund grants through this commission. Um, that one is currently open.

00:43:36,100	It opened August 1st, I believe, um, applications, however, won’t be reviewed for the first round of submissions until October 1st. Um, and then they’re reviewed on a quarterly basis afterwards until funds are expended. Um, the second opportunity uh for that, uh, another grant is the Celebrate America Grant. Um, that one’s up to 25,000 per application.

00:44:00,100	It’s federally funded through the National Endowment for Humanities. Um, that one is a 1 to 1 match and it’s a cash match only. Um, it’s currently open. It’s been open since I believe April or May of this year. And the application is reviewed on a rolling basis, so Smit as soon as you can, uh, and hopefully you get some funding for that.

00:44:24,170	um there are some similar grant activities that would be eligible for these funds, um, and these would be eligible between both of them. So the first one, would be speakers, screenings or discussion series, community events and family programs exhibits both permanent and temporary digital projects, educational materials, um, and research leading to documentary

00:44:48,700	films, exhibits, books, etc. Um, there are a couple specific ones for each, uh, grant that are just specific to those grants that they’ve laid out. So the separate eligible activities that were called for under both of them. The North Dakota 250 Community initiatives.

00:45:13,270	One does allow for public art as part of that like interpretation component for uh temporary or permanent exhibits. Um, they also have a $1000 max um for a trip to the North Dakota State Heritage Museum and State Museum to visit the ND 250 exhibit, um, not sure how relevant that would be within our community, um, but it could be something depending on what we would choose to do.

00:45:37,800	Uh, the Celebrate America one does provide or allow for meetings, conferences, and symposia for those eligible activities, uh, and well as professional development and training. Um one thing I would like to note, uh, I did talk to Tory Jackson with the Bismarck Historical Society today. They had their board meeting last night.

00:46:04,600	Um, it does sound like they’re very eager to partner. with the, the historic Preservation Commission for these, uh, either to apply for the grants, uh, but just in general to to plan something, uh, to celebrate this occasion Um, so there are a couple recommended actions that are provided for in the packet.

00:46:29,530	Um, so the first one would be to determine what level of involvement the historic Preservation Commission um, would like to have for these efforts. Uh, the second one would be if the historic Preservation Commission would like to get involved, um that staff would like to identify activities or ways to engage community members in the celebration.

00:46:52,100	and additionally, the third item would be to determine what grant or grants should be applied for to support the celebratory activities. Do you have any questions I have a question for you. Um uh, for the criteria for the grants. um especially the exhibits and the speakers and things like that.

00:47:17,630	Are there, is there, are there more guidelines provided on that, of that, so that are these things that would pertain to the US’s 250th anniversary versus our local.

00:47:39,600	I mean, do, is that laid out in those guidelines? Uh typically, uh, for at least I know for the National Endowment for the Humanities, they’re a little bit more broad, mainly because it’s a federal grant you make it pertain to how you, you want it to go for, um, their request for proposals that I have in front of me is very broad with what they have.

00:47:56,630	I believe their notice of funding would have maybe have some more information, um, but not necessarily. Um, they’re notice of funding typically has more information on how to apply um for that one, the state one, there might be additional information on the actual application information.

00:48:23,370	However, the, the RFP or notice of funding that they have here, it was only 4 pages, so it doesn’t have too much information besides just giving ab broad sense of this is what a potential eligible activity could be.

00:48:45,700	I do believe that most of it, um would be uh related to celebrating the past of the last 250 years, I think it could relate to North Dakota either through different uh places, maybe innovations or something like that, um, as well as potential achievements contributing to the nations’s overall history.

00:49:06,500	Um, if you do have more questions and you do want to read through those personally, um, there are links to that where I could send those to you individually, but the packet does have them linked online. So if you click on the underlined item, it should be there in case you or anyone in the public has questions on that. Thank you. Does anyone else on the commission have questions for Lauren before we talked about it? No. that question. Hm? Not a question For Lauren.

00:49:30,500	Anybody All right, thank you, Lauren All right, let’s start with the top of this list. Um so the level of involvement that the staff would like to know about the level of involvement that the HPC would like to have. Anybody event I think we should be involved. I I think we should be involved. I don’t I think we should be involved.

00:49:54,100	I know how you determine how deep our involvement is or what it is, but somehow we should be involved in. that I’d agree. I think at the very least, you know, we’d be advisor and depending on how deep Bismarck gets into it, you know, that might get into the purview of the overall city commission,

00:50:07,370	especially if it’s the involving like $25,000 you know, for grant match, but I’d, I definitely agree Well, Bismarck has a long history. of participating in the celebration in you know, I mean, I’ve gone through it, archives, boxes of things related to um the.

00:50:34,100	um the last number of of centennials, yeah, because I mean there’s a, there is a whole lot of stuff and nationally. um, if you look at the accounts, um, of a lot of national traveling traveling things that came through out of, out of the capital. um.

00:50:59,170	so there had to so now I would assume there’s probably a little less framework for, um, supporting those patriotic events, so we probably should be involved in it. just to help have a help a framework to hang. what is going to come through and what we could help develop here. Chana Commission.

00:51:31,700	So Lauren, have you had any conversations with admin about what what, what’s that team thinking that we would do next year or? I mean it’s cause it really should be I could see a support scenario from, from this committee, but as to lead it, I don’t know if that’s the right, it’d be, I think it would come from more from admin,

00:51:45,100	to be honest with you. Uh, Comm is anchored, uh, vice Chair Commissioners, so I, I did reach out to Jason on that, um, and I, I do think that if anyone would lead the efforts from the city, it would be admin, um, but I think based on

00:52:02,170	his email that it will go a long way if the HPC were. in those efforts like not passively, but actively supporting this effort, um. either through just discussions or coming up with ideas or even with the help with the grants for that. Um, but you, you are correct, Comm Zenker.

00:52:26,270	I think that effort for the city should be led through admin. so OK, so what I think I hear and what I remember too from like the Centennial celebration. because I’m that old, is that the mayor led a lot of that that a lot of it came out of the city administration and um people got very involved in that.

00:52:53,470	event Now 250, I mean, that’s in maybe not as, as big as a. a round number, but it’s. what we’re gonna see, right? So I think from what I hear from you is that let’s see if I can at least summarize this is that we feel like we we need to, we

00:53:13,970	want to be involved, um, we, we’re working on determining the level we would certainly support and assist the city administration with every possible way, and then we’ll get into discussing ways, possible ways.

00:53:43,530	So for as far as our level of involvement I would say we we, we feel like, um, actively involved, is that? if, if not, not taking leadership maybe of the community but partnering with all the other organizations who will be working on this. Does that sound, I don’t know, that’s not a full sentence or anything, but yeah, Comm Noddle because one would imagine that there is going to be a central organizing body that’s not us.

00:54:10,330	But that there, I would imagine that there are wood out of it admin or some other committee within the within the city that there would be some sort of organization.

00:54:33,330	that’s gonna step up tour can we assist? I think that’s what we’re saying, yeah, we’ll, we can assist and if the if the city asks us, um, well, we’re having this planned we’re looking at this. If the HPC applied for this grant. This month that could be used to. fulfill this thing that we are planning.

00:54:55,800	I mean, that’s what I would assume our involvement might partly consist of is is being the one that’s asked to apply for the grant to pay for some of it. unless I’m going to suggest that as we get to the next two categories, the next two questions or the grants if the grants, um, have a way to support our mission and vision um, then we might be in applying for those funds or those grants for our purposes, but that doesn’t mean we

00:55:15,000	couldn’t also, you know, do one or the other, and so I, I I think we should figure out what what we wanna we want to do if we want to do anything because maybe we don’t, but but I, I think for your first que you have an answer for your first

00:55:31,000	one. Is that correct? And then Amy, do you want to, uh do you want to tackle number 2 or 3, it relating to these grants and possible things. like for the uh humanities grants that if, if there are, does anyone have ideas of things that the HPC could do that’s related to our city’s history that has

00:55:58,370	contributed to the national history I mean well, uh, Comm Allen, uh, I’d say we can, you know, highlight stuff that’s like, have made, you know, cause much of the middle of the country is considered a flyover, which, you know, obviously is very, very complimentary, um, but it’s like sometimes we

00:56:21,730	still can make a splash and I, you know, I mean, some uh joke, but it’s like one example could be like Mr. Bubble. You know, everyone knows Mr. Bubble, um, so that’s one thing where we can highlight it’s like, hey, we weren’t there for the founding, obviously, but it’s like, you know, we still, we

00:56:36,500	can still make, you know, we’ve still made a splash that’s like, you know, people in New York know. they may not know it’s from North Dakota, but it’s like we can still have that effect where it’s like, yeah, we, you know, we matter. just one thought.

00:56:57,000	Uh, Comm Noddlin um one, if we’re because our mission is here. in our community so if what part of the nation’s story. is the reason we’re here So we’re looking at, we’re looking at Westward expansion. We’re looking at Lewis and Clark again. We’re looking at a lot of those things that are part of our national narrative.

00:57:27,270	and we may be flyover, but we were also paddle through and roll through in wagons and if, if I could, I could see, for instance, um the this group putting together or getting a grant to do a narrative story trail along the river or some, someplace like that, that would sort of feature some of those

00:58:01,500	um, some of those parts of where this area fits. because if we’re celebrating the whole, the whole is composed of parts and that 250 years and that that would include things we have to realize that that includes the takeover of this area so you would have to, to look at making sure that we

00:58:34,000	were um capturing the, the native perspective. on on what life looked like 250 years. to now for them as well. I mean, there are a lot of themes that could be pulled out and that it would be this group’s specific um, understanding that could put that in a context for use during this and perhaps have

00:59:09,730	something that you would like if we did a story trail or created some kind of a, a narrative that would would tell tell that um that that’s something that is still here after the after the 250th year is gone. you know, can we, can we get something that fits our purpose.

00:59:38,530	with this purpose that lasts. Yeah, Chair I, I don’t know if I’m getting ahead, but it’s like that makes me think of like partnership potentials where it’s like, you know, for it’d be good to be like partner with, you know, Mandan or Lincoln, you know, they’re a little, they’re a little new, but it’s like, you know,

00:59:53,600	partner with the Met, you know, metro organization. um, but you mentioning the tribes like partner with UTTC partner with the MHA nation. um yeah, I think there’s a lot, or for, you know, the national grants like probably a good partnership would be, you know, State Historical Society, you

01:00:11,800	know, they I, I don’t know, I just feel that’d be natural where they’re gonna have an event if it’s at the, you know, be at the heritage center here in Bismarck, so.

01:00:33,000	I’d like to piggyback on the back of what you said, Amy, the um you know Bismarck had also has a a important history as a steamboating landing for many years as the place where the all the, we were the Amazon of the of the development of Western, the North northern portion of the country.

01:00:50,870	This is where the trains came and the steamboats came and the freight came and then it went off to develop the West, and this is where, um, you know, it was stopped here for many years. It was the Bismarck was a hub of transportation development with with the Good Roads program and the development of the transcontinental highway system.

01:01:07,370	I mean, Bismarck has a history that’s national, um, and it can play a role in that. And so like one of these things on the Celebrate America Grant program is research, research leading to films, exhibits, books, or other products for the general public. So I mean maybe.

01:01:29,630	maybe one of our projects is figuring out researching and figuring out what is Bismarck’s role in the, in the national. history so that it, so nobody ever thinks of it as flyover country again if they if that’s the kind of thing that they think about, um. it just it has, it has those roles in its history. We just don’t talk about them or know about them much, so.

01:01:48,900	I mean not celebrate America Grant seems like it has. um. potential for us as Bismarck’s HBC um I don’t know about, I don’t know what to think about the uh. the ND 250.

01:02:24,100	community one might be similar, but so do you wanna, do we wanna think about this and find out more and everybody kind of do we the uh one is opened already. The application process is open and we have a we would have to have some, if we wanted to get on the first round, we would have to have it done um, by our September in order to get it, um, through the city commission

01:02:40,500	approval process as well. Um but you said they’re gonna be reviewing them quarterly. Uh, vice chair Nodland Commissioners, uh, so that’s correct, um, the ND 250, they’ll start reviewing in October for that one for the first round of applications, um, with discussions with, uh, Bismarck Historical Society.

01:03:08,970	I think if they want to, I, I think that one’s open for nonprofits as well. I could be wrong. Um, but I think they would like to apply by that October 1st deadline just to get right out the bat, um, with options, I think they will likely be reaching out to admin as well, um, or we can on their behalf to start discussing

01:03:32,430	applying for that grant or another grant, um, just to get items going, um, I did not share their initial thoughts from their meeting yesterday, for they had two specific ideas that they were discussing just last night, um, they thought it might be beneficial to have an event or some sort of um

01:03:56,530	activity that could go along with the Fourth of July event that the city puts on, uh, and will be putting on at the uh, at its new location, um, according to admin, I think there was about 8 to 9000 community members who attended just this past year.

01:04:19,430	um, so it could be a great opportunity to, to reach out and engage with the community at that event is what their thoughts were on that. Um, another option would be, uh, hosting a symposium, um, or symposium, um, for uh local authors or even tying into next year’s, um uh, anniversary for the Battle of Little Big Horn, which will also be occurring.

01:04:45,100	um, so they thought it might be a great opportunity to tie in and tie in to North Dakota’s history in that sense, um, and perhaps get authors who are prominent in that subject to come to Bismarck and provide. a discussion opportunity.

01:05:06,000	Those are just ideas currently they’re not final or anything, and I think it would be a great opportunity to further discussions with partners if we are looking to apply, and that would be something to work out with admin and those partners.

01:05:32,600	Well Comm, the, uh, I, I know that the first grant, the, the, the 15,000 or the 10,000 it talks about is due October 1st, the first, uh, applications, it doesn’t say anything about uh the deadline for the Celebrate America and the, the bigger matching 25,000.

01:05:52,900	Do we need to decide, uh if we’re gonna do one or the other and if we decide to do the October 1st, uh, do we have to have all of our plans laid out to justify the 10,000, what we’re gonna do with it or just have the application in, uh, with just some basic facts, you know, this is what our plans are for this $10,000 and then we get more into details about what we’re gonna do with it.

01:06:09,630	afterwards I don’t know what the criteria are, so I guess what I’m hearing is we have potential projects that we might be interested in. We have potential projects that Bismarck Historical Society is interested in. We have potential projects that might come through admin, um, so.

01:06:30,270	uh we, I don’t know how what the grant, what if they are detailed grant, usually they wanna know, they want a budget, they want estimates of what you’re going to do with it when you apply. but I, I haven’t seen these. Let’s take a look at the links and see if we can find um what those applications look like.

01:06:59,100	What do you guys think? I mean Comm Noman, could we, um find out what more precisely what the um Bismarck Historical Society. envisions using that money for and seeing if we can. piggy back with that.

01:07:23,100	so that it you know, they, they seem to have thought had a little more time to think about it and maybe even have seen some of the criteria and thought about it a little more in depth, maybe what they’re doing if we were, if we kind of copycatted enough difference that we could bulk up um, and that would be a really good partner. You get if we both got it or one of the other, we could make more bang that way Lan has something to add.

01:07:49,470	Uh, sorry, vice Chair Commissioners, it might be beneficial for the next step for this would be to identify 1 or 2 people from the commission who could that start to get into a working group with either other partners and admin for this that way you’re able to hear from them what their thoughts are.

01:08:10,630	Admin has their thoughts and everyone who’s relevant to that specific planning, um, what have those discussions there and then it could be brought to back to you for a more cohesive discussion at that point. Well, does anybody want to volunteer to be on such a committee? I’ll volunteer. Does anyone else want to volunteer? I would.

01:08:35,700	We’ll team up again. OK. I, I want to add in here that I want to go back to our the HPC’s mission and vision is I feel like we, I don’t know where we are on our strategic plan.

01:08:54,000	but we kind of came out of the box with a lot of ideas of projects and things that we wanted to do and we got a bunch of stuff done and I’ve, and I wanna make sure that we, the, the HPC has a vision of what it wants to accomplish and so that we aren’t always tagging on to what other people want to do.

01:09:08,330	I know that if we, we want to partner and collaborate, but I hope that the HBC can also, um, take a a lead on representing, um the cities, um. historic preservation. We have, um a lot of, uh, projects of our own under, uh, uh, going on.

01:09:30,100	So I can see that it might make sense to let other people take the lead on this, on this period, but I, I guess I feel like I am, I don’t even know what our strategic, what our strategic plan is right now for us that we, we, we don’t have a

01:09:47,230	a slate of 4 here’s our top 3 priorities that we want to get done that we need. So I guess maybe maybe at our next meeting we could get an update from our strategic plan committee so that we maybe it’s time to do another.

01:10:07,630	retreat hour so that we can all kind of come up with what it, what is it the HPC is doing because I mean that feels to me like this is, these are some great opportunities and, and I think the things that everyone will come up with are gonna be great and what do we,

01:10:24,600	what do we, how do we make this decision? So. I don’t know. I mean I, I think if you guys can, if you two are willing to volunteer, does everybody think that sounds good? OK. So will you guys kind of check.

01:10:46,630	um and then keep Lauren in the loop, I guess, is that? usually I’ll, I’ll be working with them on that just to keep everyone in shape for that. The Nexus.

01:11:06,270	Do we have any other, um, actions on this that that you need from us? Um, and then what do we want you guys to report back to us at our next meeting, and then we decide, or do we just how do we, what’s our next step? Comm Doddlin.

01:11:32,370	Would it be appropriate to, um, have the have these two report to Lauren and then Lauren could let us know if it looked like it was uh something we needed some time to think about. um, before the meeting rather than, you know, so that we come in informed and ready to make a decision about something if a decision needs to be made or a motion needs to be made.

01:11:53,270	Yeah because this feels like a lot of possibility, there’s a lot of possibility and with this, especially with this quick deadline turn, you know, we would need to get something within the next 2 weeks to get it in front of the Smi city commission and September and I don’t see that happening 3 Yeah for OK. When does that, how about the second one? Um Mm yeah.

01:12:26,800	OK, so a month would give us and if we’re going to put try to either put in our own or a collaborative application with uh a partnership or on our own behalf, we, we would try to, we would need to try to have that by the next HPC meeting in order to get it to the city for

01:12:45,630	the 2nd in order to get it to the, to the Shippo by that October 1st deadline. And you would have to. because we meet the 3rd Wednesday. It’s actually that agenda item is do that to make it to the 4th.

01:13:03,870	Does that make sense? Like in a few minutes, Whitney’s gonna be sending an email with the agenda for Tuesday’s meeting. so I mean it would be like hot off the presses to make the 4th meeting or the 2nd meeting in September. OK. So that’s if that’s the that’s the pressure you guys have.

01:13:25,070	If you can, I mean that there is another the next quarter, you know, but if, if, if the Bismarck historical Society is trying to make that deadline. then at least by the next HPC meeting, we should have something something so that we so that we can either agree to do our own or collaborate. Yeah. OK, I feel like that’s sort of a plan just. sort of. All right then.

01:13:55,530	Anybody else have any comments or questions on this agenda item? OK So we’ll go on to our last regular agenda item, which is other business, the 2025 Historic Preservation Fund grant update. Uh couple of things for other business. I have 3 small things. The first one will be that 2025 historic preservation Fund grant update.

01:14:24,870	We were awarded two of the three projects, um, are, are funding for two of the three projects we applied for grant funding for, um, those ones are the Downtown Historic District survey, we got funds to conduct that project, and uh we also got some funds, uh, as well as providing the match through for the historic preservation plan.

01:14:48,370	Um, so that subcommittee’s been holding off to, to really finalize things until we heard back from the state on this, so, um, once, uh, we receive, uh, uh, uh, I guess once we actually signed the contract, we can actually get started on working on these projects, um, we’ll have a bit of a tight

01:15:10,230	turnaround, um, to get started working in sending out the RFP for the downtown district, um, just based on what our timelines were for, for what we included in that application, what is approved with the contract.

01:15:35,900	Um, the contract is, as we currently speak, being sent, uh, for the next city commission, um, for their approval, and it’s going through the uh contract review process and through various departments. Um, so hopefully soon, uh, and by the next meeting, um, we’ll see that as a regular item on our agendas to start discussing and getting ready for. Um, the second item of other business is uh just noticed that the Patrick E.

01:16:00,430	Byrnehouse was officially accepted by the National Register of Historic Places on August 4th, um, so staff will be working to get that, uh, updated within our publicly available, uh, national register map that we have online.

01:16:20,100	Uh, the third item, um, just a little snippet of news, but I thought it would pertain to you, uh, Comm er Perley brought it to my attention, um, but the Fargo Moorhead Heritage Society has disbanded due to a lack of interest and fewer uh volunteers, um, all their records that they would have are with the NDSU archives, but since it’s a similar organization who has the goal of historic preservation and providing history, um, engagement to a community.

01:16:46,500	I think it’s, it’s relevant to bring to your attention, uh, that’s it for me. Thank you. Thank you. Is there any other other business Uh, Commissionerer or Chair No sorry or Chair or Chair No sorry or Chair or Chair No sorry, um, Lorn will, uh, will there be a notification on the social media about the, uh, new,

01:17:04,530	you know, new national register site. Uh, great question, Comm Hall, or vice chair Commissioners, uh, I hadn’t planned on it, but I can definitely work with Kenn to get that out if that’s something the commission would like as long as it doesn’t overburden.

01:17:22,470	I don’t remember if he got extra staff. I remember he was buried. Uh, I believe there’s one additional staff person now who’s helping out with some now. All right, thanks. Congratulations, by the way Any other, other business? OK, well, I’m hearing none, this meeting will be Adjourned.

01:17:52,630	The next regular historic preservation Commission meeting is scheduled for September 17th at 30 p.m. right here in the Tom Baker room. Thank you,