00:00:00,000	away others. Jason, maybe this week something. Okay. All right. I think we’re at a duly appointed time of 130. We’re in the Tom Baker room of the city County building in Bismarck. This will be the policy board meeting of the Bismarck Mandan, Metropolitan Planning Organization. First, we’ll have the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag.

00:00:27,530	Of the United States of America.. And to the. Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We can call the meeting to order. Call. Roll, please. Mayor Berglund. Mayor Zach Meyer. Or Commissioner Zach Meyer. Mayor. Froehlich here. Commissioner Botkin here. And Chair Schmitz.

00:00:59,600	Here. First item is public comment. Restricted items on the current agenda or the prior agenda. Anyone wishing to speak, please come forward. A second call for public comment. A third and final call for public comment. Seeing no one, hearing no one public comment is closed.

00:01:24,670	Members, what are your wishes with regard to the consent agenda? Move to approve. Second. Any discussion? Hearing none. We’ll call roll. Mayor Freilich. Yes. Commissioner. Bacon. Yes. And chair Schmitz. Yes. When we do regular agenda item six, transportation improvement Program amendment. Steven. Thank you. Chair. Exhibit our be in your packet. This month. In the process, an amendment to the 2020. You’re the mix not on. Sorry.

00:02:05,770	I always forget I got to put that. But push that button. So this month, we processed an amendment to the 2026 through 2029 tip, which is exhibit RB in your packet. The amendment was advertised for the required 15 day public comment period, and we also held a public hearing yesterday.

00:02:23,670	Have not received any comments on this amendment. Uh, this amendment is simply to add a new statewide project to the tip for maintenance on existing automatic traffic recorders that Ddot maintains across the state. It includes one location in Bismarck.

00:02:49,670	Um and the details of that are on the amendment form uh TAC recommended approval of this amendment as presented yesterday. Are there any questions? Any questions? What are your wishes, members? Make a motion to approve the amendment. Any discussion? Hearing none. We’ll call roll. Mayor Freilich. Yes. Commissioner. Bacon. Yes. And chair Schmitz. Yes. Item seven. The 2026 2029 Transportation Improvement Program amendment. Steven. Thank you. Chair.

00:03:23,700	So we also processed a second amendment to the tip this month. But we received the notice from Ddot past the point where we could advertise for public comment before our meetings. But Dot did want us to approve it this month if possible. So the amendment is being advertised currently for the 15 day public comment period. The hearing will be held at 10:30 a.m.

00:03:43,030	March 27th. Upstairs on the second floor in the Blackstone Room of this city county building. So it is another statewide project that Dot is adding to the tip for pavement markings on various highways within their Bismarck district.

00:04:05,430	We are seeking a motion to approve the amendment, contingent on no substantive public comments being received at the hearing later this month. Uh, in TAC recommended approval of this motion.. With that contingency. Correct? Correct or condition? Yes. Move to approve as presented with contingencies. Second. Any discussion? Hearing none. We’ll call the roll. Mayor. Freilich. Yes. Commissioner. Bacon. Yes. And Chair Schmitz. Yes. Next item eight. The 2026 2027 up p amendment. Kim.

00:04:37,400	Thank you. Chair Schmitz. Members of the board. Exhibit are d in the packet beginning on page 23. Thank you very much. Um, uh, provides the details for amendment one to the 2026, 2027 up. Uh, while all the changes in the document are shown through a check track, changes version in the packet.

00:05:00,600	There are really primarily only four areas that I want to focus on today. Um, first of all, task 2026 102 on page 47 and 48. If you. Just. Um. Okay. Um, so many of these, uh, changes to the Up were necessitated by the fact that we experienced project delays.

00:05:41,100	Um, for instance, with regard to the transit development plan getting off of the ground in 2026, when we anticipated it. Um, also to delays in our work program for 2025, for instance, we weren’t able to conduct our traffic data collection and analysis study as we had anticipated.

00:06:07,700	And so we really needed to carry that forward into 2026, as that is a preparatory work for our Metropolitan transportation Plan. And the MTP is one of our core documents. So we cannot neglect any of the preparatory work for that. Um, task 102 for 2026 on pages 47 and 48 details the changes, and you can see here that we have the, uh, revision for the transit development plan shown.

00:06:33,830	We have reduced that budget in 2026, uh, from 99,000 and change to $63,000. And we’ve also adjusted the time schedule for that project in 2026, since it will be getting off to a later start than anticipated. And we’ve also adjusted the ending period because it will carry further into 2027.

00:06:58,470	We also have the traffic Data Collection Analysis Project, which is a new project and was added to 2026. Uh, that is to provide analysis of the traffic data collection that was conducted by North Dakota Dot and by the MPO. In 2025. We will be using 2025 as our base year for our travel demand model update, and that will occur early in 2027.

00:07:21,830	So the timing of this traffic data analysis coincides very well. Now with that travel demand model update. Uh, so we needed to add that in. We show a new budget for that new project at $102,000. It will be completed before the year end of 2026.

00:07:45,830	Um, and then next after that, we do have original origin destination or odd data purchase that we’ve added to 2026. Uh, this is also a necessary preparatory item for our travel demand model update. And this budget has been added in and it’s entirely entirety. Excuse me for 2026 at $35,000 and change, and it will be completed before year end.

00:08:10,430	The final item that I wanted to bring forward as far as MTP preparation work is the socio economic data procurement that we typically do, that was originally scheduled for 2027, and we found that it really would be more beneficial to have that collected and procured in 26 prior to the commencement of the travel

00:08:33,900	demand Model update in early 27. So we have taken that from 2027 program, and we’ve inserted it into 2026. Uh, the budget there is indicated at $5,000 and it will be completed by December of 2026. Uh, the final item on the task 102 project table is the parking Constrained Area study.

00:08:58,500	This was originally intended to be a study that would focus on parking constrained areas in Bismarck and Mandan. However, Mandan felt that, uh, pursuing this particular study at this time was not fully beneficial to them. And so we have reduced the partnership on that to solely be the city of Bismarck.

00:09:18,770	And we have reduced the study time schedule from 12 months to ten months. And also the budget has been reduced accordingly from 180,000 to 150,000 overall. Now, the study will not get off of the ground until potentially August of 2026. And so a good portion of that will carry over into 2027.

00:09:41,170	Um, so we’re indicating 73,000 will be spent in 26, with the remainder, um, expended in 27. Uh, the task uh 102 project table for year 2027 uh continues. Are we having. Some technical problems? Uh, we’re on 48. Thank you. Can everybody online hear us now? I can. Yeah, it’s got like a big echo chamber. It’s kind of.

00:10:23,500	It’s kind of nice. So you sound like a god right now. So. Okay. Uh, goddess, by the way. Goddess. You’re right. Um, my my apologies. You’re absolutely correct. Okay. Well, thank you. Um, hopefully transcription will catch everything that, um, audio didn’t. So maybe I’ll have to replay the meeting. Thanks for alerting us to that.

00:10:44,700	Uh, so going forward with your 2027 on the task 102 project table on page 48, again, we’re going to recognize the fact that the transit development plan schedule was extended into October and November, and then the budget was increased accordingly from 80,000 in 20 7 to 116, 400.

00:11:07,170	Again, the socio economic data procurement that was in 27 has been removed. And then the parking constrained area study now reflects the overall reduced budget of 150,000, and then the 2027 budget of the remaining $77,000 for that study.

00:11:30,630	I do want to make note that my my copy and paste skills are great, but apparently my editing and proofreading are not, and I still had Mandan in the description for the parking constrained area study on both of these tables. Um, Mandan will be removed. So, um, just making a note of that for you.

00:11:49,830	Uh, the other areas that I really wanted to focus on besides the study descriptions and budgets in these tables, are the actual budget tables. And then we’ll go to page 55 for those that begins with our 2026 budget table. Um, everything that has been struck in red has been amended. And the new costs have been shown. This is quite a detailed table.

00:12:13,370	Um, just to provide a lot of transparency in how we are moving on our projects and our budget around. But you can tell by taking a look up at the top that amendment one does not affect the total budget, nor the federal share, nor the overall local share. Those remain intact and unchanged.

00:12:34,700	What changes throughout with these project changes within this amendment are the local shares breakdown. So you can see at the top that in 2026, uh, the the biggest impact is going to probably be felt by the city of Bismarck because of that parking constrained area study.

00:12:57,100	And so their local share amount has increased. Um, Mandan, because of that study, is seeing a reduced local share amount. And then of course, Briley Morton and, um, the city of Lincoln have very, very minimal increases that are being, um, as a result of the, uh, socioeconomic data procurement, the odd data and the traffic analysis that will be conducted.

00:13:24,900	So, again, very small amounts there. Um, the other more significant match change will affect Bismarck and transit. Um, that is of course being reduced in 2026 so that it will be increased in 2027. Uh, going to the next page, we do have our 2027 budget.

00:13:48,900	Uh, now I just want to kind of maintain, uh, the realization that we’re working with very high level estimates for our, our, our out year or our illustrative year in our program and our budget.

00:14:10,970	So, um, any time that we indicate a total budget amount or federal funding that we feel may be available, um, that is open to speculation and to change that will change right up until April 15th, when we get our numbers from Dot this year. So this is very fluid. But I did want to indicate how those studies were either being moved into 2027 and how that might impact the budget, or how they were being moved out of 27 and into 26.

00:14:31,630	So, um, I would be happy to entertain any questions that the board might have regarding anything that I’ve presented or any of the other changes that were in the document that I haven’t gone over.. Any questions, members, what are your wishes? Move to approve? Second, any discussion? Hearing none. We’ll call roll. Mayor Froehlich.. Yes. Commissioner. Bacon. Yes. And Mayor Schmitz.

00:15:01,500	Yes. Adam nine. The 2026 fringe area map. Roads. Master plan. Um, is Joel on? Joel. Hello? Can you hear me? Okay, I apologize, I’ve been dealing with some technical issues on my end as well. Seems like it might be affecting both of us. Um, I just had a network interruption, so I apologize if there’s been a way.

00:15:40,430	You’re. You’re fine. We’re to you on our agenda. Okay, well, um, I I’m not sure what’s going on. I usually have a presentation to share with you, and I’m having trouble, you know, getting that to connect and share here.

00:15:56,030	So I’m happy just to give you an update to correspond with what’s in your agenda. Packet items. Um, I think the two big things that we want to share with the policy board today are that we have continued to move forward with evolution of the plan to include what we’re referring to as a regionally significant corridor network.

00:16:14,700	In the past, the previous version of the fringe area Roads plan was really oriented to being more of a framework for guiding development, and it didn’t have a timeline or cost associated or even, um, you know, defined capital projects that would move forward.

00:16:31,870	The network of the plan got built out as development happened in the area, and we’ve been moving toward a regionally significant corridor network that’s kind of a hybrid piece of that. That would set some additional, uh, policy review for major connections in the Bismarck Mandan metropolitan area.

00:16:53,830	So further updates after today, we’ll start getting into what that looks like more, um, that touches on the other big we wanted to bring to everyone’s attention today, which is that we just had a series of stakeholder meetings last week that are part of a multi approach or multi-pronged, uh, stakeholder outreach plan that we’re currently carrying out and talking to community members.

00:17:13,470	Unfortunately, when we set out our agenda topic items, we didn’t have those meetings or we would have been glad to update you on the results of them. I feel like they were very productive and active conversations that happened on Wednesday and Thursday of last week, so we were able to meet with, um, around 25 community members overall that include elected officials.

00:17:34,170	Mayor Schmitz was there, um, Commissioner Zucker, um, some planning commission members from Mandan were present, but also representatives of the private sector and private industry. Um, what I would describe as a pretty significant and I would say, you know, somewhat uncommon approach to get that many people together in a single discussion like that.

00:17:54,900	And it was very helpful for us to hear different perspectives, to ground the data side of our planning work in, in some kind of community knowledge. And, um, the point of view of different industries other than transportation. So very helpful conversations.

00:18:13,170	I think that led us to some major questions that we’re going to be working with staff to explore further around some of the big ideas on transportation that have been explored in past plans and studies in the region. Those include, um, a northern bridge crossing of the Missouri River. They include additional network, especially connections across the Hart River and Mandan, and then locations of potential future interchanges.

00:18:37,170	Those have been explored in past studies, but there are some new ideas and new perspectives to those. Now that we need to understand the document for this plan. So in further updates, I would say we’ll be getting into more, um, more of a draft of what the plan network looks like in your agenda packet items.

00:18:53,300	There is a draft map of the what we’re calling the regionally Significant Corridor network. For now, I want to emphasize there’s a big draft stamp on that. Of course, that is not written in stone or final at all. That is still subject to change. And I think some of the stakeholder conversations we had last week pointed the potential for redefining some of those corridors.

00:19:11,500	But there are also questions about what that means, what the level of review would look like, and what level of planning, um, proactive planning steps you take for setting those in terms of thinking about right of way of reservation, thinking about intersection and driveway access policies.

00:19:31,100	Those are all things that will get defined in the plan as we move into this further. Um, so with that, happy to answer any questions. Apologies again for the the technical difficulties I’ve been having this afternoon. Um, and happy to take any questions from you. Commissioner Bakken. Just an FYI on your draft map, 1804 and 1806 or mislabeled.

00:19:53,970	Oh, thank you for pointing that out. We’ll make sure that’s corrected. 1804 is on the Bismarck side of the river. Correct. And that’s I think that’s the I remember talking about those two specifically last week. So that might just be incorrect in the math you have in that packet. But we’ll make sure that’s correct. And moving forward.

00:20:13,270	Any other comments? I do know that the groups were pretty engaged last week, so hopefully you got some good feedback. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to item nine. That, excuse me, item ten, the fiscal 27 recreational Tree Trails Program solicitation for the RFP. Thank you very much, chair.

00:20:42,100	Uh, just wanted to remind, uh, the, uh, the board that the North Dakota Parks and Recreation District is soliciting now for the fiscal year 27 recreational Trails Program, or RTP. This is going to they have a short solicitation window. They’re going to be opening for applications April 1st and closing April 13th.

00:21:04,030	So we sent notice of this to your staff members and jurisdictions, other relevant jurisdictions. In February. Any jurisdiction that submits a project within the MPO area will need to coordinate with us to get their project approved at the April or May TAC and Policy Board meetings, so we can provide them with the letter of support that the Park District requires before their application is

00:21:23,330	finalized. Uh, they don’t require the letter of support up front to submit the application, but they do require it before the application will be processed. So, um, I’ve notified everyone that needs to know this, but just wanted to let everybody know that this is happening. So any questions? It doesn’t look like it.

00:21:42,470	If you watched our meeting last night, hopefully there will be a couple proposals coming your way from Burleigh County’s perspective. So excellent. Thank you. All right. Next item number 11. The 2026 Transit Development plan. Uh, RFP update. Paulette. Thank you. Chair. Chair Smith. That’s a tongue twister, isn’t okay. Thank you.

00:22:12,470	Um, the request for proposals for the transit development plan was sent out last month on February 19th. And it did close yesterday on the 16th at 5 p.m.. And we have received four proposals that are now being verified for the responsiveness.

00:22:32,200	And our next goal is to have the selection committee, which consists of Deidre Hughes of Bismarck Transit, a mayor Berglund of the City of Lincoln, Jim Neubauer of the City of Mandan, and Isaac Johnson for the city of Bismarck. And they’ll be conducting interviews with the proposing consultants around the 13th or 14th of April.

00:22:49,870	And the MPO expects to bring the top ranked consultants Attack and Policy Board for possible approval at the April board meetings. Yeah. Any questions? Any questions? Thank you. Thank you very much. Item 12 spring directors meeting report. Kim. Thanks again. Chair Schmitz.

00:23:16,970	Uh, members of the board, every spring and every fall, the MPO directors of the state meet with North Dakota Dot personnel. And we conduct what is called the North Dakota Dot slash MPO director’s meetings. This is just a really good chance for us all to get together.

00:23:34,100	Um, address any emergent issues that might be facing us or anything that has come up that we want to make sure that we’re all on the same page, uh, on as far as our transportation planning within the state of North Dakota. Uh, we just recently met last, uh, Tuesday on March 13th or March 3rd, and we had a really good contingency present from the North Dakota Dot.

00:23:51,770	There were representatives from the local Government Division, from planning and asset management, civil rights, transit, um Bismarck Division office and programming. Um, then of course, we had all four executive directors from the MPOs in the state there, along with their staff.

00:24:11,370	And again, this was this is a really good opportunity just for us to touch base, make sure that we’re all moving forward on the same page. A couple of updates from that include the fact that North Dakota Dot is in the midst of the update to their long range transportation plan.

00:24:32,230	Um, they have, uh, they have gone live with an interactive funding tool, which is a pretty unique and kind of fun exercise and way for the public to provide feedback. Um, it allows the users to explore how their choices shape North Dakota Dot’s budget and see how monthly transportation dollars support essential services. So you can you can kind of indicate your your wish list of transportation priorities. Um, in your area or in the state.

00:24:56,230	And then you can assign budgets to those and kind of see how things shake out. And then it might give you some comparisons. So, um, it’s just a very interesting tool. I encourage everybody to, uh, take advantage of an opportunity if they have a few minutes to check it out on.

00:25:19,230	Forward transportation connection. So I know it sounds long, but you know what? If you go to MnDOT, you’ll get there. They’ll have it pretty front and center for you. So, um, encourage you to participate in that.

00:25:39,600	The other item that was of great interest and always is, is the discussion of our consolidated planning grant, current balances and any unexpected funds. So, uh, in our spring meeting, we typically are looking back at the previous year and seeing how our expenditures went and whether or not there were any unexpected, uh, federal transportation funds that we had been authorized to use.

00:26:05,170	And this year, there were indeed unexpected funds. Uh, they totaled a little over $352,000 for our statewide MPOs. And that kind of broke down to about 38,000 for the Central Dakota MPO. MPO up in Minot, um, about 65,000 unspent from, uh, Fargo-Moorhead or FM cog, uh, approximately 95 94,000. Excuse me.

00:26:32,900	Unexpected from Grand Forks, East Grand Forks and then, um, yeah, 155,000 for the Bismarck Mandan MPO was left unexpected. So I said this was my year of shame. Um, however, I, you know, everybody had various reasons for not being able to expend their anticipated budgets.

00:26:57,970	We realized a 75%, um, staffing vacancy in the first six months of operation in 2025, which hurt us a lot. We weren’t really able to recover from that. That also created some capacity issues for us. And so it made it really difficult for us to get our studies, our RFPs, for our studies out in a timely, um, manner and get those studies rolling.

00:27:16,700	And then we also, um, as indicated previously through the Upwork discussion, found out that some of the things that were programmed were a little misaligned with the preparation work and the timing for our next MTP. So, you know, there was kind of a combination of things.

00:27:36,900	Um, but what happens is, uh, all of the unexpected funding from the state kind of gets put into this pot. So we’re talking about a pot of about $352,000. Um, these unexpected funds cannot be carried forward into a consecutive year.

00:27:59,370	What happens with them once they get put into this pot is they are now obligated, and they have to be obligated. Obligated until they can be reauthorized, which is usually around or after August of that year. So it would be about August or after here in 2026. At that time, they can be reauthorized or re obligated for spending in 2027. All right.

00:28:23,900	So North Dakota Dot provides several options for the MPOs to um, uh, kind of determine the redistribution of these unexpected funds or turn back funds, as we call them.

00:28:49,970	And by far the very best option for us, according to our our opinions as MPO directors, is to be able to get together and have some productive discussions as the directors of the four MPOs in the state determine what each MPOs needs are for programming and for budget. For that, um, re obligated year and try to come out with a a redistribution that would be beneficial to all four MPOs and to our regions and to the state collectively.

00:29:20,500	So, uh, uh, we had until March 15th to provide a recommendation to North Dakota dot. The MPO directors met twice, and we were able to come up with a redistribution and a recommendation, which we provided last Friday to Dot ahead of the 15th deadline.

00:29:45,030	Um, we are asking for a little over $86,000 to put into the 2027 budget if this recommendation were approved for the Bismarck Mandan MPO. Uh, right now, Fargo Metro Cog does have some preparatory project items for their MTP, which are, um, very necessary and need to be completed and are unfunded at this point.

00:30:09,030	So if Dot um takes our recommendation for a turn back, um, distribution, then everybody will kind of be able to address those items that are most important for their MPOs and move our transportation improvements ahead for the whole state. Now, Ddot does have the final word on this. Uh, they can take a look at this recommendation and say yay or nay.

00:30:31,500	They do have until April 15th to provide us notification of that. So we we wait. But we do hope that, um, they will take our recommendation and will be able to use that $86,000 for our 2027 budget. And our program, um, any questions on that? I know that’s kind of a chunk. Any questions? Okay.

00:30:58,770	Uh, another item that we discussed quite at quite great length is the basics act. As many of you know, our current, um, transportation, surface transportation, uh, legislation, the idea or, uh, Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act of 2021 is set to expire on September 30th of 2026. So that’s impending.

00:31:27,030	And, um, uh, if we don’t have a new surface transportation bill in place, an approved or approval to function on a continuing resolution, we have no funding for our programs. So we have been watching very carefully what’s kind of coming down the pipe. Um, there is something called the Basics Act that has been developed.

00:31:51,500	And, uh, it was introduced by Representative Kristin McDonald rivet from, uh, Michigan and Representative Rob Bresnahan from Pennsylvania. I want to point out, um, our Michigan representative is a Democrat, and the Pennsylvania uh, representative is a Republican. So this is a very bipartisan bill. Um, they did introduce this early in February.

00:32:18,330	There has been a lot of, uh, support and, um, promotion, uh, from, well, all kinds of agencies throughout the country, including Ampol, which is the Association of Metropolitan Planning Organizations. Um, the, the League of Cities, the um. Oh, gosh, I have a whole list here. Um, uh, National Association of Counties, National Association of Development Organizations.

00:32:45,100	I mean, so, uh, the, the um, Coalition of Mayors, uh, so very far reaching and broad support for this bill as a whole. Um, we MPO directors have, uh, we’ve attended a couple of webinars that have been provided and, uh, kind of getting into all the nitty gritty details. It seems like a lot to digest.

00:33:06,930	But we’ve been told again and again that with a bill of this magnitude very often, um, as it’s been introduced in the House and then must go through the Senate, it will go through several iterations and basically only pieces and parts will get pulled from it. They’ll probably never pass, you know, a whole bill that’s been introduced, it gets amended and so forth.

00:33:26,270	Um, and so as directors of the MPOs in the state, we feel that it would be very beneficial to, um, uh, to craft a joint letter of support for the items in the bill that we feel would most benefit our MPOs. And we were kind of hoping to get North Dakota Dot on board with that.

00:33:44,370	And when we brought it up at the directors meeting, we were informed that Ddot has kind of done their own recon on this. Uh, they were actually in Washington, DC. They were up on Capitol Hill in February, and they had a pretty decent contingent there.

00:34:01,900	They did some outreach, um, to Senator Cramer’s office, who is pretty well versed on this bill and knowledgeable of it. Um, uh, Congresswoman Fedora is aware of it. And of of our three delegates, it sounds like Colvin’s office was maybe the least engaged.

00:34:24,870	But from a dot perspective, they said they’ve they’ve kind of done what they intend to do as far as, um, following and supporting the bill or providing any comments and that they would decline from, uh, adjoining, uh, a joint effort with the MPOs to provide a letter of support. But they did encourage us to do so on our own.

00:34:45,230	And so the other directors and I will very likely be meeting to maybe craft a letter of support and bring it past our, our policy boards, you know, for, um, for their weigh in in April. Um, because we do feel that that would have a stronger voice than each of us generating and providing a letter separately.

00:35:06,470	You’re looking at having a draft to us in April meeting. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Right now we just want to I want to get it out there. So it’s on everybody’s. Joint effort with all the MPOs in the. It would be. Yeah.

00:35:19,470	We just feel that that would carry a lot more weight. It would be a stronger, uh, letter of support. Yeah, I know, so, um, that’s kind of where we’re at with that. I did provide you handouts regarding the basics act. Um, we just we feel that there is a lot of, uh, good concepts in, in the act itself or in the bill itself.

00:35:41,800	But, uh, there’s a QR code on that, and you can certainly get more information. Anybody who is in attendance in person today, there are also handouts on the back table by the door when you come in, so feel free to grab one of those.

00:35:58,830	And finally, the last item that I wanted to bring up, which is kind of relevant to what Joel Mann was talking about regarding the fringe area road Master Plan update and some of the interstate, um, or interchange uh, concepts that are being considered as part of that plan. Uh, North Dakota Dot did state that they are going to resume the urban inner, uh, sorry, urban interstate prioritization process, or UIP.

00:36:28,170	And this is where they get together with representatives from, you know, our urban communities. So I know that they’ve already reached out to the engineers of city and the city of Bismarck and the city of Mandan, and, um, later in the summer, we’ll be having those discussions about really what our, our community’s priorities for the interstate.

00:36:48,430	And that will help North Dakota dot what’s important to our locals and hopefully set forward in their plans as they move forward with some interstate improvements and potential interchange identification as well. So, um, with that, that concludes my update regarding the director’s meeting, and I’d be happy to stand for any questions. Any other questions? I guess. Not.

00:37:17,200	Thank you very much. Is there any other business for