00:00:06,070 So I guess we will start with our. We do have a quorum. So, um, we’ll take a call to order. Uh, Whitnie. Would you take a roll? Member Scherr. Here. Petersen here. Schmitz here. Chair Frohlich. Here. All right. 00:00:33,370 Um, first item up for on the agenda is a public comment period for anything that’s on this agenda or the past agenda. Anybody has any comment? Call second time. Third time. Uh, public comment period is over. Um, moving on to approval of the minutes. Has anybody had a chance to look at the minutes. Move to approve as presented. Second. We have an approval in a second. All in favor, say aye. Aye aye. Opposed? No. Sign. 00:01:05,300 Motion carries. Uh, receive the Vision Fund financial statements. I believe Eric’s here. Good afternoon. Chair, mayor, Committee members. Um, the financial statements that were provided in your meeting packet. Uh, just touch on a couple of the highlights. Um, you notice the cash balance? Um, for the Vision Fund went up about $5,161 or so. 00:01:36,070 And that’s in relation to interest earnings and the repayment from the Cloverdale loan. Um, for about 2230 bucks. Um, the next item really is the reserve cash balance. That’s in recognition of our, um, loans approved but not yet drawn. And that’s in recognition of, um, the city commission awarding the loan that was approved on June 9th. 00:02:00,400 Commission meeting to maximize chiropractic for the 107 692 and change. Um, with that new balance being 402 775. That’s also reflected on the notes receivable page. Um, the third page, and really the last thing to, um, kind of touch on that shows change is the notes receivable balance. 00:02:21,400 Um, that did decrease by the $2,230 in recognition of the monthly payment from Cloverdale. And really, the only change on the income statement is for the investment income, like I had mentioned, that went up. Um, $2,930 or so and some change. 00:02:47,330 So looking at the financials for the Vision Fund as a whole, um, we have about 3.96, um, available loans to be handed out. I would estimate with interest earnings in the Cloverdale repayment. We’ll see that north of, um, the four loan mark. Um, for the July meeting. Um, estimating at that 107 $692 mark, um, for fully funded Vision Fund loans. Okay. Any questions? Any questions? All right. 00:03:18,770 Thank you. Thanks. Anybody have a discussion or question or anything? Concerns move to approve as presented. Second. We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye aye. Motion carries and we’re on to, uh, if I want. I hope I say that right. Air properties or ear Erie. Okay. 00:03:43,930 Erie Properties LLC. Uh, Midtown Dental flex pays interest by down application. Thank you. Chair. Mayor Schmitz. Members of the committee. I know you’re used to seeing Noah up here presenting, but he’s out of the office this week. Which means you’re stuck with me. Then. My name is Alex Koski. I’m the vice president. 00:04:00,900 Economic development over at the Bismarck Mandan Chamber. EDC. In your packets, you have a Vision Fund application from Erie Properties LLC, which is the real estate holding company for Midtown Dental. The rest is structured as a loan up to $107,692.30. 00:04:27,970 The project and purpose of the loan is for the purchase and remodel of 2000 North 12th Street in Bismarck, North Dakota. You might be familiar with the old Slutsky building. Um, the company will occupy 100% of the space from the onset of this project. 00:04:45,800 The owner of Erie Properties LLC in Midtown Dentals, Andrew, he’s sitting right here today, and he has a brief presentation for all of us regarding the project and the business. If you have any questions for me before the presentation, I can stand now for him. Otherwise, I’ll be available after for any questions. I’m not sure who put the application together, but I do have one question for whoever it should be because it indicates the interest rate of 1. 00:05:03,470 75%, which would be on the Vision Fund dollars. All of our others are at two, which I don’t particularly wish to see that decline, because that would all leave us. If it’s if it’s at 1 in 3 quarters, we’re only getting three quarters of a percent back to the city because we have a 1% servicing charge. Yep. 00:05:20,100 And we we can visit about that after. Um, yeah. I’d like to thank you all for welcoming me here today to listen to my presentation. I’m Doctor Andrew Schmid. Uh, I’m with Midtown Dental Bismarck. That’s my practice. 00:06:09,800 So I’m going to just tell you a little bit about myself and a little bit about the practice here as well. Uh, that about myself. I was born and raised in Bismarck. All my family still resides here. Um, my wife’s family still resides here. Um, funny story. I actually met my wife. I walked her middle school, so we’ve been lifelong Bismarck people. Uh, we moved to Omaha. We got married right before that. Moved to Omaha. 00:06:26,800 Uh, I knew we wanted to come back to Bismarck to to raise our family and do that. So. And leaving North Dakota kind of just, you know, made us realize how, you know, important and how special a place it is to, uh, to live here and to be born 00:06:39,100 here and raised. So, uh, education, uh, went to BHS, graduated from there in 2007. Go demons. And then, uh, went to University of Mary. 00:06:53,670 So I actually grew up just a quarter mile south of the University of Mary out there, and my parents still live out there, so worked perfect when I lived at home, went to school out there. Um, my wife actually went there to she got her social work degree from the University of Mary. And then we graduated, I got married, and then I got accepted to Creighton Dental School. 00:07:04,900 So, uh, moved down there for four years, lived in Omaha, um, you know, did that. And thus starts the journey into dentistry. Um, upon completion of that, um, I was mentored by Doctor Kevin Bjork and was his associate, uh, coming out of school, it was always kind of our plan. 00:07:20,770 You know, I’d worked for him by his practice and do that. And, you know, luckily that’s how everything kind of turned out in the end. Um, in July of 2018, I’d go on at purchase his practice that he worked at for 35 plus years is really cool to see. Um, you know, the patients that he had built relationships with. 00:07:36,330 And for me to take that over and, you know, I still see people that have been in our practice for, you know, 45 plus years. So it’s a really cool thing to, to, to see that. Um, I also went on to purchase Doctor Kevin Gilchrist practice. Um, they’re in the same kind of office space there. 00:07:50,600 They shared overhead, shared, um, hygienists, that kind of thing. So it was just kind of a natural transition to kind of merge those into one. And, um, turn those over. So, um, yeah, definitely been a challenging, rewarding process. Uh, becoming a small business owner, there is not a lot of, uh, training for small business in dental school. 00:08:09,470 So, you know, a lot of mistakes and things, failures out there. But, you know, those are the best things that we learn from. So, um, you know, we do a lot of community outreach, uh, you know, through the practice, go to schools, go to preschools, things like that. 00:08:23,900 Uh, um, try to, you know, teach kids about oral health, kind of start that, um, I have a lot of people come in that shadow, uh, you know, just trying to help mentor the next generation of dentists are probably going to come back to Bismarck. So, you know, it’s nice to be able to do that. People did that for me coming through. 00:08:35,500 So it’s, you know, it’s just nice to kind of pay that forward and keep that going. So, uh, going to BHS, ran track, did a lot of those things. 00:08:47,070 You know, it’s nice to be able to, you know, give back and you know, support when kids come in they got things for their clubs or their sports things. It’s nice to be able to get back to that stuff too. On this end of it. Um, uh, practice demographics. Uh, current employee, two dentists, myself and Doctor Madison Morrell. Uh, she actually used to be an assistant for me back in the day. 00:09:02,870 Uh, about five years later, she came back. So now she’s working for me as a dentist. So that’s really cool. Uh, we got two front office, two admin, uh, three assistants and, uh, five hygienists. 00:09:16,470 Uh, you know, as a total office, we serve over 4000 plus patients within the community from South Dakota to. We have people come from Minot. Dickinson still, um, all over the place, you know, 95% of the people are in Bismarck here. So it’s cool to see, um, offer a broad range of services. You know, I worked really hard getting out of school to be able to offer these services. 00:09:30,970 Uh, you know, we do routine care fillings, extractions, dentures, cosmetic work, implants. So, um, you know, we can do just about everything at the practice, and we’ve really invested into technology to be able to make that happen. 00:09:46,930 So, um, you know, it’s it was a big thing because I didn’t see a lot of that before. So it was nice to be able to put back into the practice and be able to take care of patients the way that they, you know, they should be taken care of. So, um, you know, I also believe it’s important to take care of our staff. 00:09:59,900 So it’s, you know, a really big into see, um, you know, taking trips to Vegas to do that with our staff. Um, you know, they get some, see that they probably wouldn’t get in Bismarck, North Dakota and, you know, and that’s okay. So it’s, you know, it’s good. But, you know, we take care of them and help them learn. 00:10:13,070 It’s going to just, you know, just trickles down. And they take care of our patients. And it’s just it’s good for the community. It’s good for our practice as a whole. There. You guys hear me? Okay. Is that good? Yeah. Um. Need for the new building. Um. So the new building is kind of a result. 00:10:26,430 Of long held vision, you know, that I had, I think, taken over the practice. You know, I knew, um, you know, Northbrook was kind of a short term thing for us. Um, and then it kind of grew into a practical need of just not having enough space, enough room, and those kinds of things. 00:10:41,070 So, um, our current office, we have seven operators there right now. Um, the new office is going to have 11 plus all the other spaces that, uh, that we do not currently have at the, at the office right now. 00:10:54,200 Um, I just hired two more hygienists, um, in anticipation of our move. Uh, I hired them at the first of the year. I mean, I probably was not ready for two hygienists at that point in time, but, um, I knew we were moving, and I was anticipating that. So, you know, they were there. They fit our culture, fit our practice. 00:11:06,100 Well. So it was a, you know, a good thing to, uh, to, to get them because, um, before they got there, we were booking out about eight months for cleaning appointments. Just the standard of the mill. You know, typically people come back every six months for a cleaning appointment. 00:11:21,800 Um, and to get new patients in and other things like that was just, you know, a headache. It was it was stress on everybody, the hygienists, the staff. It’s like, where are we going to put people? So, um, having the two new hygienist has been just life changing from that standpoint. 00:11:34,130 It’s nice we can get people in in a timely manner. Um, you know, usually it’s either same day appointments now or a couple of weeks out where we can get new patients and, you know, care for more people throughout the community. 00:11:48,730 So, um, it’s just the need for the new building is just like I said, we’ve invested in a lot of technology, uh, 3D printers, uh, milling machines, internal scanners and things like that, and it’s just consumed room that we’ve just been taken and taken, and we’ve added admin people to the back room. Um, there’s just we have a nonexistent break room at this point. 00:12:04,670 Uh, so it’s going to be, you know, a nice change to be into the new office. Um, and also the new flows of the new office. Uh, you know, I think it’s going to help the staff, too. It’s just, you know, it’s going to help ergonomics. It’s going to help things, help longevity of their careers. 00:12:18,900 You know, I want these people work for me. I want them to work for me, for, you know, years and years. I don’t want them to be burnt out and not be able to, um, you know, walk at the end of their career or something or have back issues for the rest of their career. 00:12:28,370 So, you know, a lot of things that we’re building in the new office are going to be going to help with those as well. And just the natural light, instead of being in a closed box all day, hopefully everyone won’t be quite as crabby. Around there. So, uh, a little bit on the new building background. Um, just. 00:12:41,130 Kind of rendition. Um, we are getting closer and closer to what this actually looks like. Um, it’s changed a little bit over the, uh, the time periods, but, uh, that’s a that looks like, um, we purchased the old, uh, sandwich building to renovate that, uh, sorted all the people that Mister sandwiches and their pizza. 00:13:01,370 I get a lot of comments about that. So, um, we purchased a building for 1.55 million. Um, we hired Paramount Builders to be our general contractor to, uh, um, take over and run that stuff, I mean, local, they got a lot of local subcontractors and people that they use and the relationships that they had 00:13:18,270 built with people. So it was nice to be able to that, um, budgeted about 2.5 for that, um, to, you know, pretty close on the budget. It seems like everything’s kind of kind of holding steady. 00:13:33,700 And then we got about another 800,000 for dental equipment, uh, cabinetry, uh, things that we’re going to need to, to run the, the clinic. So like I said, it’s, you know, we use a lot of subcontractors and contractors around the Bismarck area. Um, you know, it’s fun. Like, I go soccer things or other stuff around the community. 00:13:47,300 And I run into people and they’re like, oh, you know, I’m working on your building. And it’s like, oh, you know, it’s crazy how many people that are a part of this project. So it’s, you know, it’s really cool to see. And other than cool, it’s nice. It’s like even that area of town, it’s like, uh, you know, on stage. Rick went up there. 00:14:00,530 It’s, you know, it’s it’s cool to see that, you know, Cottingham Insurance just finished their building on the end there. Um, you know, tavern and all that stuff’s kind of going, so it’s like it’s, you know, we’re kind of re infusing into that area of town. So it’s been really cool to see that. 00:14:13,630 And it’s like, you know, it’s the gateway into Bismarck. It’s like people come out of the interstate. They go right to the Capitol. It’s like it’s it’s a cool area. Cool thing to see. Um, other thing, uh, big thing we do at the office. 00:14:29,970 Um, I host a monthly study called meeting at our office with about 12 other dentists and specialists from around the community. Um, from orthodontists. Uh, endodontics, periodontist and general dentists like myself. Um, we do that through the Spear study club. Um, it’s kind of a module. So they come in, we meet once a month. 00:14:48,200 We, you know, watch a video, talk about things, um, you know, it fosters community for us and fosters community for the other dentists in the community. So it’s like, you know, we’re trying to create that collaboration and not that competition within the community. So, you know, this is a big thing. 00:14:59,970 I kind of I had to rent another space in the mall to be able to, to host these things. And, you know, just for a conference room for ourselves for CE. But at the new office, I’ve kind of carved out a pretty good space. So, you know, we’re going to keep these going, keep that going so that, you know, we can keep this collaboration. 00:15:12,730 And, um, you know, it’s just good for the community to not be competing against each other for and all this stuff. So. Uh. Positive impact. So, you know, what makes Midtown stand out from the other dental practices that you go to? I know there’s there’s a lot of other places and things like that. 00:15:28,670 You know, it’s kind of like two things that, um, you know, that we look at. So it’s it’s technology and, you know, it’s building relationships with patients. 00:15:41,170 And I think without both of those things and, you know, a good marriage and a good balance of those things, you know, we can’t you know, we’re not doing what we need to. So, um, you know, the, uh, technology we put in 3D X-rays, 3D printers, milling machines. But it’s not just that, you know, we don’t get it and just, you know, go. You know, we do the continuing education. 00:15:57,470 We learn how to use it properly and, you know, be able to treat people. Um, so, you know, that kind of keeps us at the forefront of dentistry. And then, you know, it’s the relationships of those things. So it’s like people trust us, they learn from us. 00:16:09,730 And, you know, we’re able to get that message across of how this new technology is going to be able to help you. So, you know, if you have one, just have relationships. You’re probably not treating people like they should be. 00:16:21,900 You know, if you just have the technology, you’re probably not getting your message across to people to, you know, all this stuff helps you. So. Um, so yeah, not only does allow us to see our patients, you know, in a much more timely manner, you know, get in when they’re supposed to be in for their cleans, you know, so they can’t make that excuse anymore. 00:16:36,000 It’s not our fault. Um, but, you know, it’s also going to help us to serve a bunch of other, you know, people throughout the community and, you know, serve more of the demographic here. 00:16:51,400 Um, you know, we expect to create seven plus new jobs over the next five years, ranging from, you know, another dentist, uh, hygienists, assistants, receptions, admin. You know, these are high pay quality jobs. You know, we’re we’re doing 401 K health care, all this stuff. You know, it’s just like, these are careers that people are are, you know, going to be able to support their families with. 00:17:07,530 So, um, uh, the other thing too, is that new BSc program, uh, they have the new assisting, uh, hygiene program out there. Uh, you know, people are going to be able to graduate from these programs and, you know, have jobs, places to go. We, you know, clearly need a need for those positions. 00:17:22,400 Hygiene and assistance in the community right now. Um, so it’s, you know, it’s going to be cool to be able to offer those jobs and be right out of school. And, you know, you got a nice, high quality job to, to go into. So. 00:17:37,970 Um, so, you know, why Midtown, uh, you know, Midtown Dental may be our name, but, you know, at the end of the day, it’s, uh, you know, it’s more than a name. Uh, you know, Midtown was the name was carefully chosen for my practice. 00:17:49,430 Represent more than a location, uh, you know, represents the roots of the city. You know, it reminds me of where I come from. And you know why I wanted to do this work? Uh, you know, to support the health part of the community, which is, you know, the people at the end of the day. 00:18:01,570 So, you know, instead of building a brand new building up in North Bismarck and where all the growth is going, you know, I wanted to stay, uh, you know, local, um, you know, I wanted to be near all the neighborhoods that have helped shape Bismarck into what it is. You know, those places were in the 50s, 60s, you know, that’s where a lot of those, um, uh, places have gone. 00:18:16,500 So, you know, I would be close to the interstate for easy and quick access. You know, a lot of my patients nowadays, they come in, they’re like, oh, you know, it’s closer to where I live now than it was before. And we’re only a mile away. So, um, you know, we wanted to stick with that. 00:18:29,030 And, uh, you know, be able to renovate a new building and not just tear it down and, you know, start from scratch and do that kind of thing. So, um, you know, it took a long time to find the right building, and I had other few things fall through. And they say things happen for a reason. 00:18:41,330 So, you know, it it really did. So, um, you know, I’m truly grateful I’ve been born and raised here. You know, Bismarck residents have, you know, given me so much just growing up here and my dental practice and everything. 00:18:54,270 So, you know, this will kind of help give, you know, give me the opportunity to give back more to to Bismarck as well. So and. then we had our little refresh of the logo. So that’s probably more about what the building’s going to look like. And yeah that’s about it. 00:19:12,300 So do you guys have any questions or anything else? I do not, thank you. Okay. Um, if anybody else has a questions I will put up that I am a patient at, um, Midtown Dental. So I don’t know if I need to recuse myself on a vote on this or not. I can let the committee decide on that. But. So. 00:19:26,970 But I just want to be upfront about that. So, uh. Well, one question. When I look at the sources for the project, there’s no equity shown. So is this being 100% leveraged? We’ve got yeah, we haven’t quite finished that. Oh, yet on how we’re there will be an injection into the overall project. 00:19:50,230 So percentage. 8020 okay. Thank you. I don’t have any other questions related to the project itself. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Any discussion then on the project itself or so between members here? Yeah. 00:20:29,200 Part of my struggle is and we’re we’re again we haven’t gotten what we need from our friends in the room at the chamber EDC for specific focus to industries. Um, I, I’m all about trying to find ways to help small business people move forward. I’m just not sure if this fits us or the Opportunity Fund for the for the interest by down portion. Um, because there’s a lot of dentists in town who have. 00:20:54,800 And we actually turned one down. Now we turn them down because they were late to the game like they were already in the building when they came. Right. Um, so this is different. This also rehabbed the existing building. So I think there’s some value to that. But I. Just not sure which direction to give them. 00:21:16,630 Yeah. No, I understand completely. It’s in uh it’s an enterprise or an industry that we have a lot of competition. There’s a lot of other places out there. So, um. 00:21:31,670 Yeah, that was where my question mark was, was is it really an unmet or unmet need? Um, and I think that’s what you were kind of getting at, too, with that, because it is such a high competition industry that I’m like, is there the demand there to call it unmet and that this will be meeting it? I don’t know that you can answer that, but, um, but I 00:21:47,230 just know there’s a lot of dentists in town, so I don’t know that there’s a change. Maybe, maybe you can describe if there’s a differentiation between you and every other dental office in town. 00:22:07,330 Um, you know, I, I think, you know, as the community, you know, we look at that, you see all these dentists, you see all these, you know, places in town. But I think when you get to the end of it and you look at how many people we have waiting or how many new patients we have call in or things like that to, I think it’s I think it’s, you know, it’s it’s, it’s it’s lost a little bit on that because, 00:22:23,100 yeah, it does look like there’s a lot of dentists and things. But it’s not just Bismarck Mandan that we’re serving. You know, it’s like we have people coming from lemon. We have people come from South Dakota. 00:22:35,300 We have people coming from Dickinson that aren’t able to get care out there, and they’re coming to Bismarck or people from Minot. So it’s like, you know, we just don’t have patients just here in Bismarck. I think it’s, you know, it’s it’s certainly I know this is this is a Bismarck thing, you know, at the end of the day. 00:22:46,630 But it’s, um, you know, like I said, we’re out eight months for for cleaning appointments before that. Um, you know, until we recently hired two hygienists with, you know, the the new building coming in. So, um, you know, I it was definitely numbers of dentists. 00:23:02,930 You know, I’m not going to deny that at all at the end of the day, but I think it’s I don’t know if there’s any data to, you know, to just be like, okay, well, it’s like there’s a lot of dentists. There’s, you know, there’s nothing else going on. But, um, you know, there’s there’s there’s definitely a need. 00:23:17,000 There’s definitely a demand that people that are not getting met out there, you know, in the community. So. Okay. All right. So if we don’t fund it, are you willing to go to the North Dakota Opportunity Fund? Yes. Just because I think it might be a better fit given the situation. Absolutely. 00:23:34,430 Yeah. Um, and you still get the buy down? I think their terms are different. Like, it’s a little longer payback, a little shorter. Payback. If the interest rates are really different. Horse apiece. Okay. Okay. So those are my thoughts right now. I don’t. 00:23:54,670 Know, I, I had, uh, some of the same thoughts on just the, the industry itself. Um, I don’t like I said it’d be nice to have the focus that we don’t have yet from the EDC of where we should be looking at. Um, I can see I don’t mind the fact that dollars are coming in from lemon or wherever else. 00:24:08,670 I think that’s a good thing. We’re bringing in dollars and things like that. So maybe there is an unmet need at eight month wait or whatever, but I can see the concerns of some of the others here about maybe that’s better Avenue that way. So. 00:24:29,930 Andrea, do you have any comments? Um, yeah. I agree with you guys. Um, I just, you know, say we approve it. Well, then another dentist is going to come in and want the same thing, and we’re going to run out of money here. And, um, same with the chamber EDC. I really want the focus group stuff. 00:24:45,100 Like, I feel like since we approved the chiropractic care last week, last month, I’ve seen multiple different chiropractic offices that offer full family services. So now it’s questioning. Makes me question whether or not that was the right one as well. 00:25:00,600 So, um, yeah, I think in the future it would be great if the chamber EDC could really show unmet need or unique a need unique product. Right. Um, to be that’s visionary or whatever. So I’m right along with you guys right now. I think it’s cool that they’re reusing the property, though. 00:25:20,370 Yes, I unfortunately had to take the back door out of that to get the oven out of there, but I tried to put it back as best as I could. So first off, you asked if you need to. I don’t think you need to because it’s not. You don’t have a financial interest. Okay, okay. Personally, I would let the other committee members. 00:25:35,330 I agree. Okay. Um, I, I would make a motion and a recommendation. I would move that we deny, but recommend they go to the North Dakota Opportunity Fund because I think it fits better there than here. Um, and that we would provide a letter of support or recommend a letter of support from the city for that. 00:25:55,970 We have a motion. Does anybody second that. Second. Any discussion? Andrea. Anybody else? Okay. Seeing no discussion I take a roll roll call vote please. Whitnie Member Scherr. Yes. Peterson. Yes. Schmitz. Yes. Chair Frohlich. Yes. I think it’s a good project. I just think it we have limited resources. And so, um, and they have funding, I’m told. 00:26:39,130 Okay. Yeah. Wish you the best on the project. Like I said, I like the location. I love the fact that you’re doing a new project, a building there. It is closer to my house too. So, so, um. Okay. All right. Thank you. 00:26:59,070 Um, move on to our next order of business of vision fund scoring matrix. Do we have any? Is probably doing that. So I don’t know, Alex. I was gonna. Chair Mayor Schmitz members of the committee. Noah did leave a little bit information. I tried watching the last couple of meetings just to familiarize myself. 00:27:33,270 I don’t have a lot of information to share, but I have. I can if we want to talk through anything or. And I’m okay, it’s up to the rest of the committee. We can certainly push this to July. Yeah. Along with the it might be the same process for the funding letter of support matrix as well. I don’t know. 00:27:53,900 I, I didn’t see anything left. Okay, okay. Um, I do think we need to get that going, but also sooner than later, we need to get the other matrix, which I think you just jumped into this job. I know you hit the ground running. We’re figuring it out as quick as. We can. 00:28:12,130 And Brenda was dragging you everywhere on day one. I’m aware of that. So I hate to keep pending it, but we do. I think it’d be good if we can get a robust discussion around those matrixes. Um, I do think it will potentially help at the city commission level as well. 00:28:31,270 Um, knowing we have a brand new city commission being seeded in, um, what is today the fifth. So like six days and I don’t know what the applicant will be, but hopefully it’s a positive appetite. For. Sure moving. 00:28:51,000 Forward in Mayor Schmitz just to confirm, we’re looking to look at that rubric and kind of re revise it, enhance it to really fit the direction this committee is wanting to go with that program and making sure that we’re really hitting on that unmet needs then. Correct. And as far as the letter of recommendation, I think it’s just more of how we’re how it is. 00:29:08,600 The chamber EDC is vetting those that aren’t coming to the Vision Fund or are being denied by the Vision Fund so that we can put something in the packet for the city Commission. Um, and I would like it. 00:29:25,130 This would be up to the rest of committee, but it would not be a bad idea if this committee then actually provided a recommended vote, a recommendation vote for those, kind of like I did with this so that, you know, the committee is throwing its support behind it before it gets to the city commission, because I asked them the city commission. So hopefully we can get that one on the 14th. 00:29:43,330 I’m looking over my team over here and they’re shaking their heads. Yes. And we also are they’re looking at adjusting that matrix for startup businesses when we that that increase our income and what that looks like. Because when you’re from 0 to 100% or whatever. 00:30:02,070 So how that adjusts and how that looks on that new matrix as one of the points, I. Think, and I know that’s been a big topic of Noah’s kind of worked in the last couple of weeks and everything in just this trip kind of happened at the. Yeah, that’s fine. inconvenient time. We’re okay. All right. 00:30:13,170 Well, we will just do we have to take a motion to table that or can we just table that to the next meeting? Okay, then vision fund scoring matrix and Opportunity Fund letter support scoring matrix. We’ll discuss that to July. We’ll be 23rd third meeting. Any other business that we need to discuss. Thank you. I have none. 00:30:38,830 Andrea. I’m good. Okay. Well then meeting is