00:00:18,800	And Commission meeting, please call the roll. Commissioner sacristan. Commissioner. Nothin here. Commissioner Zenker. Commissioner Hall, here. Commissioner. Perrin. Here. Commissioner. Swanson. Here. And chair Engel here. Thank you. Oh! See, the historic preservation report is in the packet for anybody’s perusal. There were only two things that we’ve reviewed so far this year.

00:00:55,700	It’s pretty late. Um, the, um, public comment period is open to anyone in the public interested in commenting on any of the agenda items or the prior Historic Preservation Committee agenda. Uh, do we have anybody? No, nobody’s on right now. Uh, so we’ll move on to the approval of meeting minutes.

00:01:22,300	Did you guys have time to look those over? I move to approve. I second. All right. Any discussion? Hearing none. Please call. Commissioner Nordlund. Yes, Commissioner Perron. Yes. Commissioner Hall. Yes. Commissioner Swanson. Yes. And chair. Engel. Yes. All right. Uh, moving on to the 2020 four Historic Preservation Fund grant update. Lauren. Thank you. Chair and commissioners.

00:02:08,300	Um, the consultant for the South Capitol Survey has submitted the remaining 162 site forms to the State Historic Preservation Office for its review. Um, this includes 111 site forms and 51 updated site forms. Um, the additional forms for the sites that needed site form updates were also provided to the State Historic Preservation Office, as well as to the Historic Preservation Commission.

00:02:33,930	Earlier this month. Um, as those are more so updates rather than a full new site form. Um, it wasn’t provided with the previous items that were submitted last month.

00:02:53,270	Uh, a copy of the letter that the consultant submitted with the forms to the State Historic Preservation Office is included within the packet at the March 2026 meeting. Uh staff provided a suggestion to the commission to utilize some of the remaining funds for the 2024 Historic Preservation Fund grant. Um, the suggestion involved the consultant for the project hosting a presentation on information discovered from the project.

00:03:18,200	Um, the commission was open to the idea, but stated that 3000 was too much to spend for just a presentation alone. Um, the commission discussed having a summary text document created as well for that. Um, the commission did request that the consultant provide a breakdown of the potential cost for those items, as well as a scope for that.

00:03:40,870	Um, the consultant did submit information regarding the public outreach opportunity, and that should be attached within, uh, the packet for you. Um, one other note that was brought to staff’s attention yesterday. Um, Willmar Elementary is holding an open house. Um, on May 6th from 4 to 6. Willmar is within the boundaries of the South Capitol Survey.

00:04:09,470	Um, the Historic Preservation Commission was invited to have a small booth, um, at that event to share resources on Bismarcks history, historic preservation, and potentially any items related to that South Capital Survey project. Um, this could be a potential opportunity to share information on the National Register, uh, process, as well as, uh, additional information on the South Capitol Survey.

00:04:37,230	Um, the consultant noted that a fact sheet on that project for this might be able to be created. Um, but might not include all the information. Uh, at this point in time, as the report for that survey is still in the draft process.

00:04:58,270	Um, so staff recommends that the Historic Preservation Commission reviewed the submitted public outreach scope and fee information and provide direction to staff on this item. All right. Is there any discussion? Yeah. Chair. Angle. Other commissioners.

00:05:29,270	Um, the one thing that I noticed about the breakdown is that there’s no breakdown between the presentation and how much the presentation would actually like the gathering of the presentation and presenting it compared to the brochure and distributing that out. I’d be curious. Out of the 2400 bucks how much of that is actually based off of the presentation itself? Because I think that was the main question, main thing in question last month. Yes. Sure.

00:05:53,600	Um, Commissioner Perron, I guess from where she put that, uh, the whole proposal was 24 hours. Uh, at $100 an hour, you know that. I mean, that’s, you know, I guess two and a half days and I in the presentation itself is an hour, and I’d imagine the the creating the slide show, the example that they used at at Highland Acres was pretty detailed.

00:06:17,230	The slide presentation. And I know that she was they’re part of putting that together. So I think putting the presentation together itself, at least a half at least a day probably. Okay. And so that leaves a day and a half probably, I’m guessing, for the production of the, the document.

00:06:36,970	So it seems like two and a half days to do the, the prep work and the and the slideshow and then give it and then I guess I’ve that’s that was from what from reading it that I, I’m assuming. But if you need further information from her. That’s right. Yeah.

00:06:56,330	I was just wondering based off of like the presentation itself and the brochure, what would the difference be in like the labor behind both of them, I guess. Just out of curiosity, if the presentation is really something that we were questioning on doing, if the presentation itself was only 600 bucks compared out of the whole 2400, just out of an assumption, or is it half of

00:07:15,400	the cost kind of thing? So it’s just something that I noticed, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Reading between the lines, uh, here to to her, uh, um, break down between the tasks, I would say the content development is by far the heavy lift presentation is just finding a venue for. Yeah.

00:07:36,570	Both the slide, the PowerPoint and the print presentation. Right, right. Yeah. It’s at least a day and a half. Right. But how do people feel about the the total cost, uh, knowing that it’s basically 24 hours of time? Hello, Amy. Welcome. That’s good. Uh. Chair angle. Commissioners.

00:08:03,900	Um, I mean, I don’t know if we’ve come up with any other ideas in the time frame to use up the remaining budget. So, personally, I’m okay with it. You know, it seems fairly reasonable in ours to put that together, and it’ll be the most efficient if it’s fresh in mind. Yeah.

00:08:20,530	And there are, um, a how many properties are we talking about? That’s a lot like 1. To 200. Yeah. Yeah. Just to select photos. I’m glad that’s not my job, but. Yeah, I would agree that I think that’s reasonable for a time frame to put something together for both the presentation and the handout. And I’d say it’s like unless was it another 600 left? We had 3000.

00:08:43,830	Uh, Commissioner Hall, chair, commissioners, uh, I believe around 600 left over. Yes. Um, another option to use the remaining 600. We did get a quote for 4000 brochures. Um, for the baseball history.

00:09:06,900	Um, we could up that a couple thousand more if we’re planning to utilize it over the next couple years to hand out. And, uh, the larks baseball is interested in in helping distribute those during games as well. Yes. Triangle.

00:09:32,570	Um, and, Lauren, are there any costs associated with having this public meeting? Though? Is there a cost for printing? If this if the in if it’s in a neighborhood and there’s like there was in Highland acres 100 people there. Um, depending on Commissioner Nordlund chair commissioners um depending on uh, the quality of the printout, if we’re talking just basic paper, the, the planning department typically has that, uh, amount within its budget to, to, uh, accommodate that.

00:10:02,870	Um, but if we’re looking for, you know, glossy or paper, more of a, a formal brochure similar to how we have, um, our other brochures done that might be additional cost right there. Um, it really depends on if we’re looking to print in house or looking to sub that out.

00:10:25,270	I would think if this is a handout for just delivering basically the premise of what the project was, it’s not going to be like, um, it’s not like the walking tour maps that people are going to be referencing a lot that I would think that the lower printing costs is just fine with that, that quality.

00:10:40,870	We don’t have to go high end with the glossy brochures or anything. Yeah. No, no, but dazzling. Um. Commissioner Nordland, on to your other point for cost of the location. Um, we have had an offer from Trinity Lutheran Church to utilize their space to host the public event as well. Okay.

00:11:05,300	Any further discussion on that? Do you, I guess, do you need a motion to, uh, use the remaining 600 for the extra prints? Um, I. Would for the baseball ones. I mean, yeah, I’d prefer to have a formal, um, motion to utilize the the 2400 for this item and the the remaining amount for the brochures, if possible.

00:11:28,700	Just to make it clear, um, as well as meet, uh, any info or any additional items that the state might have for this. Okay. I wanted to make that motion. Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Holt. I’ll second it. Thank you, Commissioner Nolan. Any other discussion before we move? Okay. Okay. Please call. Commissioner Perron.. Yes. Swanson. Yes. Sacristan.

00:12:01,930	Do I abstain? Oh, yeah. You might have to. Yeah, I abstain. Um. Commissioner Nolan. Yes. Uh, Commissioner Hall. Yes. And chair angle. Yes. Motion passes. All right. I think we have once again allocated. Funds. Same thing. Um. Different things, same money. Um, moving on to the historic preservation award. Uh. Thank you. Chair.

00:12:32,900	Engel and commissioners, uh, two nominations for the historic Preservation Award, uh, under the Historic Education and Awareness category were submitted, um, within the application window. The first nomination was for Chris Anderson in his presentation on the history of the Bismarck Fire Department.

00:12:53,400	Um, the second nomination was for Stacie Sturm and her downtown Haunted History tour. Um, both were nominated, um, by others who filled out the online application form for the award. Um staff and commissioners. Ackerson and Swanson conducted an initial review of the submitted information. Um. The forum included uh, category specific questions which were used as the basis for the award criteria.

00:13:18,300	Uh, a copy of the award guidelines, internal review form, and both nominations are included in the packet. Um, based on this review, a selection of Chris Andersen for the 2026 award is recommended.

00:13:37,630	Um, if the Historic Preservation Commission decides to grant the Historic Preservation Award to a nominee, uh staff will work to have the award presented at the next available City Commission meeting, with acceptance by the nominee. All right. Thank you. Lauren. Um. Any discussion about that? Questions. Commissioner. Could we get a report from the. Any subcommittee members who are on that of how the process went? And if the this was we had new guidelines this year. I don’t. Sure. Not details. Just just general.

00:14:12,170	I think we felt comfortable with all of the categories that we had. And I think, uh, now we did. We decide at the meeting that we were going to wait them. And you changed the top of the column now. So it says one through ten.

00:14:31,030	But that’s and between the commissioner and myself, we both came out about the same number wise, weighted wise for, uh, the ones that one and, and the second place. So I think we do have anything else to add to that. I know it’s a. You know, it wasn’t. As if we had a million of them to go through.

00:14:51,000	You know, it’s just like, well, are we doing that on a scale of one to, oops. sort of. the scribble, scribble, scribble and start from scratch? So yeah, we it was, it was um, it went easily enough and, and we had good discussion on the merits of both. So I think.

00:15:10,870	, Commissioner Holden, did you have a specific question about the how the criteria were laid out? I was wondering, because. This was the first time we used criteria like this, I would good for next year or do we need to readdress it at all? I thought it worked. I think it worked fine too. I didn’t have any issues.

00:15:24,430	Yeah, yeah. Once we decided to wait the not just the yes or no, but we gave it a one through ten and it worked out fine. Yeah. They all have yeses. What do we do now? Right. Yes. No, the wait is definitely a better way to do it. Especially if you’re more.

00:15:39,730	Well, good. All right. All right then, can I get a. Chair angle? Uh, commissioners. What? I don’t since to encourage participation would be, you know, worthwhile to send like, sort of like a congratulatory letter to the, you know, the second place finisher will say just, you know, since they weren’t, they

00:16:01,030	didn’t self nominate to know that someone called them out and, you know, just recognize their effort, even if they didn’t, you know, get the get the special award. An appreciation. They were they were recognized. I would be be very okay with that. Yes. Commissioner Nolan, chair.

00:16:16,030	Angle. Um, one thing that that I noticed that is that one of the criteria is that the the building owner or the individual being nominated must know and must agree to it and supposed to agree to it in writing. So I think that my question would be, are we congratulating the nominee or are we congratulating the.

00:16:37,970	Because in both of the cases this year, it was the a different person was nominated. Uh. Yes. Commissioner Sachs. Chair. Angle. Commissioners. Um, you know, seemed to be a little different when when it’s a person’s efforts, education, effort rather than I mean.

00:17:11,170	It seems it seems less important that somebody actually knew what was being. They were being nominated for something. Then if it’s your building, you know, I mean, it’s I can see that there might be, um, people might feel it’s a privacy issue or something like that if you were a building owner.

00:17:35,530	But if you’ve done a if you’re doing public things specifically to outreach and provide historic information to people, that seems a little less as if it would be a surprise. You know, that’s my only comment on that. Well, then, should we readdress that in the rules? Because the rules say that they must know and agree.

00:18:02,500	I think that criteria or that, um, yeah, the guideline could probably be reworked a little to, to say that, that if it’s an individual’s contribution, um, that’s not a physical thing. Um, yeah. We might have to wordsmith that a bit though, for next year. Um, were you suggesting we should not make an award if neither one of them have been? I think.

00:18:24,570	We should. Okay. But I just mean, I just want to make sure that, like, we we get we already approved the rules, and and so next year, if the person doesn’t want. And if we, if you want to surprise somebody, our rules don’t allow for that. And we’re supposed to have their permission.

00:18:40,370	So if we can tweak the language on the individual nomination for a human, then that would seem like you could allow for that. But may not. Okay. I just rather than because if you don’t want to tell somebody you’re nominating them and the rules say you have to, then are you are you going to be disqualified or.

00:19:00,730	I mean, it’s sort of a what? I don’t think it has to be that strict. It’s just that we’re tweaking it. We’re fixing it. We’ve never done this, so let’s get it right. And then it’s so let’s. Okay, so sounds good.

00:19:18,900	Can I bug the subcommittee that used these rules to tweak that language on that rule for next time? All right. Thank you. I got nods from both of them. For those of you on line. Can I get a verbal? This is like airplane rules. Um. All right.

00:19:40,070	Uh, so as far as the recommendation from staff, uh, that the or from the subcommittee, rather that the award go to, uh, Chris Anderson, are we needing discussion on that? Motion to approve. Thank you, Commissioner Hull. Second. Thank you, Commissioner Swanson. All right. Please call. Uh, Commissioner Swanson. Yes. Commissioner Nadler. Yes. Commissioner Perron. Yes. Commissioner Saxon. Yes. Commissioner. Hall. Yes. And. Chair. Engel. Yes. All right. Thank you. Motion passes. And congratulations to Chris.

00:20:21,730	If you’re watching. Um, moving on to Historic Preservation Month. Can. We run up? Oh. Can we just have that? I think we can just agree to do the the letter for the runner up. We don’t need a motion for that. Yeah. I chair Engel, uh, for that letter.

00:20:43,370	Um, I think it might be beneficial if you would also sign it. Absolutely. Okay. Yep. Thank you. Crossing our t’s, dotting our eyes here. Uh, historic preservation month. That. Uh, chair Engel and commissioner is at the March meeting. The Historic Preservation Commission discussed potential activities to participate in or promote for Historic Preservation month in May.

00:21:07,670	Uh, these are identified in the agenda packet. Um, staff and commissioners have worked on coordinating several of those activities. Um, a draft flyer with. And I will stress draft uh, on that. Um, with some of the events for the historic preservation month is included in the packet. Um, this will be updated with any additional events.

00:21:29,700	And to finalize some of those details on it. Um, staff will aim to have a proclamation presented at the April 28th City Commission meeting. Um, and hopefully that’ll kick start, um, the lead up to Historic Preservation Month in May. Um, staff recommends that the Historic Preservation Commission review and identify any additional Historic Preservation Month activities.

00:21:52,970	Um, on the screen before you, there’s a QR code that’s also included on that flyer, but it does link to a story map that has more resources on it. Um, so here’s I just one of the components there. So it’s a nice map. It has different, um, dots that’ll zoom to it depending on where they click.

00:22:13,200	And it has different events or display items on there. And then, um, you can kind of see at the very top, but it has different bookmarks for different parts of that. So it has a background on Historic Preservation Month. Um, those activities and events that I showed on the last slide.

00:22:32,930	Um, additional ways to celebrate or different resources to look at as well. Um, and there’s links and different components where people can download. Um, there’s a couple coloring sheets that the state has different scavenger hunts.

00:22:54,330	Those various items are on there, but if there are any additional ones or the actual flyer that’s included in your packet, if that gets updated with more events, this will also be updated to reflect those as well. That sounds great, and I would probably just immediately put on there the Wilmore Open House. Uh, since that’s got tie in to all of this and it’s in May. So that’s even better. Uh, yes, Commissioner Nolan.

00:23:14,030	Can that chair wrinkle? Yes. Can that may or can that Wilmore thing say that it’s a presentation or a information about the South Capital District and just even, like three of those three words or whatever, those five words, if there’s room.

00:23:38,600	Um, I if we I, I can look at the, the amount of space that we have on the actual flyer. Um, I can include it on that printout of the flyer. Um, for this one, I have a little bit more space to work with, so I can include more information on there.

00:23:54,870	Um, and I know that, uh, Wilmore does have its own specific, um, flyer that they have for that event as well. So I could include that as well. Okay. For sure. Thank you. And I’ll have another question. Um, for Lauren. What is the deadline for this flyer to be finished? Uh, prior to me, first. Okay. So one thing on there, um, in the first line where it says literature display. Yeah.

00:24:16,230	Yep. You probably got that, but okay, so we’re just kind of curious if it if it doesn’t work out that we can have the fire display, then we’ll substitute something else in there. So then we would want to change that language. So by May by May 1st. Okay. When are we expecting an answer. Commissioner Saracen.

00:24:37,330	Chair angle and commissioners. Um, I’m waiting for a return call from Captain Anderson. Um, I left message in contact. You know, fire firefighter schedules. Sometimes they’re not in the house, so, um. Yeah, I’ll be getting, uh.

00:25:03,100	I’ll be getting that contact, and that shouldn’t be, um, more than a day or so before I get that contact conversation. And, um, Commissioner Nolan and I discussed, um, alternate, um, alternate ideas for the space given the, um, the number of visual aids that we have accumulated over over the years for this mark history.

00:25:31,800	So we can we can come up with something and, uh, and make it make work and make an attractive. Um, I would suggest that. Do we still have those pockets? Those plastic pockets that we put on the window or the door? Um. Because I think we might there might be some things that we would put in those in those pockets. So if we can’t. Find the handouts or things.

00:25:56,370	Because there are people are right there. And so if we put some of the other things we’ve done there, then you’re also contributing to that. And if there’s um, um, if we come up with a different scavenger hunt thing or something like that, that could also be put in there just as a fun thing.

00:26:15,570	Great. Yeah. And if the if the fire, um, departments comes through and we use that one, whatever you guys do come up with as alternates, put it in your back pocket for next year. So no need to go to waste. All right. Yes.

00:26:34,130	So we had said last meeting that we were trying to brainstorm if anybody had other ones, but I guess that one of the questions I had, um, is for the list is, is there a particular city commission meeting when they might present the award, or were they going to are they going to declare, you know, Historic Preservation Month for Bismarck? Is there

00:26:56,900	are those on going to be on the same meeting by chance? Um, a great question. Commissioner Nathan, chair, commissioners. So, um, the plan to have the proclamation for Historic Preservation Month, that would be in April, but we can surely include it on here. Um, since it is a lead up to Historic Preservation Month.

00:27:17,570	Um, I do have an email out to Chris Anderson. Uh, related to the historic preservation award. Um, so hopefully when I hear back from him, um, to see if he’s available to have it presented at either the I believe it’s May 14th or May 28th.

00:27:36,730	I could be wrong on the dates, but the first or second city Commission meetings, um, I would have that included in there as well. Okay, that sounds good. And then is the does the Bismarck Historical Society have a meeting during May there? Great question. Uh, Chair Engel.

00:28:00,270	Um, so the Bismarck Historical Society, their meeting or presentation that they typically have each month is actually the third annual Founder’s Day trivia event. Um, so I believe that’s also on the flyer there. Yep. That is. Okay. Sounds good. Uh, does anybody else have any activities or things going on that we can include? Yes. Uh, commissioners, I reach out to the state. I was a bad person, I did Monday, I forgot.

00:28:18,400	Um, see if there are any activities we can do, like we did last time with, you know, the window pane replacement and stuff like that. I’ll follow up later this week so we can get some before May 1st. Um, let you I’ll just let you know. Lauren. Um, and then I forget.

00:28:33,000	Ah, there were were we going to work with the fire department to have some event involving the old fire truck, specifically during May? And did the fire department already have something planned? I met with the fire chief. The other, you know, a few weeks ago and, you know, mentioned in passing he hadn’t heard anything yet.

00:28:47,830	So. Uh, Commissioner Hall, chair, commissioners, I I’m not aware of any, I guess, event in May. I could double check with them to see if there’s anything I know. There’s a there’s a parade in May, so perhaps that’s an option.

00:29:07,470	Um, I could also check with our city administrator, um, who’s kind of working on that project to make sure it’s the fire truck. Is good to go for events this year. Yeah, I think they were. I think one of the fire houses was having an open house or something coming up, but I figured, you know, not not meet and greet.

00:29:21,800	And obviously kids can’t crawl around, but, you know, we have some event planned around the fire truck itself. Mister chair angle. Um, okay. So does anybody know the night that the band. The band parade night is in May? Uh.

00:29:43,800	If they’re going to if they’re going to put the fire truck on a flatbed and drive it, or if they’re going to. Is there any way that we could have this flyer available? They’re probably throwing candy, but I’m just curious if that’s a what that if that truck, if we could even just tape a poster on the side of the if there’s a float or flatbed.

00:30:06,230	That said, May is, uh, not on the not on the actual fire truck. But if it said May is Historic Preservation Month or something like that, can I mean, is there a way for us to pawn it on their float? Uh, Commissioner. Nordland chair, commissioners. I I’m not sure if they’re going in the parade.

00:30:25,330	If they are, I can surely ask about that and see if there’s any way that we can do some promotion for that. For sure. And if we have our QR code and. Yeah. Those cards or whatever. Especially if we get to do a display in the window, that’d be fun. Chair. Eagle. It’s, uh, the parade is May 8th. May 8th. Okay.

00:30:42,570	Yeah. Friday. We think about it for next year. I’m not suggesting this year, but next year we might want to put our own float in the parade. So just throwing that out there, Amy would love to dress. The other, throw it out. And tonight. Okay. Perfect.

00:31:14,000	Uh, are there any other thoughts about the the, May, um, fiestas here going on? Well. Yes. Sure. Uh, we have on there a coloring book creation that we were supposed to be thinking about has, uh, I’ve talked to the director at the Bismarck Academy, and he suggested that they would be the art students might be interested in doing

00:31:38,070	line drawings that we could use as the background for the coloring book. Um, there might be another way to do it if if it’s possible, computer wise, they might be able to take a photograph and make a line drawing out of the photograph, but that would be something that their art and design

00:31:54,600	department would might be interested in trying to tackle. But it’s pretty short order. But it’s something we could check with them about to see how we could handle that. Otherwise we have to come up with some other solution or strike it from the agenda, I guess. Thank you, Commissioner Swanson. Uh.

00:32:14,830	Chair angle. Yes, commissioners. Um, we have in the, uh, friends of the Rail Bridge. Um, material. Uh, there was a a coloring page that was produced by Rick Cincinnati for that of the bridge.

00:32:49,370	I don’t think it has any text on it, but that would be a possibility if I asked those people if we could use that in a. And perhaps, maybe we need to look at just, you know, for future, right. You know, creating a, a coloring book that, you know, not just for this month or for May, but for, for next year, you know, that would I think it’d be a really nice thing for, for kids to.

00:33:14,730	And I. think line drawings, uh, I’m sure the kids nowadays, uh, can do things a lot faster than what I’m thinking. They can. So if we have some pictures that we might want to see if they can play with and come up with line drawings, that would be good. Yes. Commissioner. Nordland. Chair.

00:33:29,600	Angle. Commissioners. I think the coloring book is in our one of our grant proposals. So the book itself. But at this point we even just sheets. I mean, most national parks and historical places just have sheets that you can download and print.

00:33:48,370	So if we could use the bridge or if we can do a line, you know, a couple of line drawings of historic sites in town that seems like and make them available on our web, on our website. That’s pretty cool for now. Yeah. I will check and and see what’s possible to be done, uh, by the students up there.

00:34:08,230	And like you say, if maybe it’s a long range project, maybe it’s not something we crank out for this time, or we just simply do a couple of pages or something like that. But but I think it is a worthy project. If we’ve got it on the budget to create for the future. Um, start now for sure.

00:34:26,130	Another option is the art students at the Bismarck High School in any way are usually sent out to draw buildings outside, you know, and we might be able to lean on them a little bit to see if they’d be interested in providing those kind of drawings for us. Paul. Newt, is that the. Yeah, yeah. And we have some good. examples from other cities. Okay.

00:34:46,530	So we have those available. Lauren, I sent you a few of coloring sheets with the when the proposal that went in, I will send them to you. But there are there are a lot available from other cities. Awesome. That would be good for examples too. Uh, if we needed to present that to. Yes.

00:35:10,000	Yeah. Chair and commissioners, if we’ve got some lined up, we could if we’re going to do a booth at Willmar, you know, have 20 or, you know, planning department can print out some, you know, non glossy, um, you know, have some for handout because presumably there’ll be children there.. I would think so that would probably. Be.

00:35:26,900	Placed on a bunch of. Adults I don’t know. I don’t mind coloring too. Yes. If anybody knows an app or anything that does this because I’m sure there is one. If there’s an app and we could get a line drawing or a coloring page of Willmar, that would be pretty cool.

00:35:40,900	That would be fun. I think you just volunteered to to find one. Is that. Yeah. You find the picture. I’ll find the app. How’s that? All right. Um, anything else for the May events? Okay. Um, I don’t think we did anything that needed a motion, so moving on to the Indy 250 Community Initiative grant.

00:36:10,300	Uh, chair Engel and commissioner is in December 2025, the city of Bismarck applied for the NDI 250 Community Initiatives grant to create an art and heritage Discovery Trail.

00:36:31,270	Um, as a reminder, the purpose of the grant is to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the United States through inclusive community projects and events that inspire North Dakotans to renew and strengthen the their democracy. Uh. The grant offers up to 10,000 for projects which would occur in 2026 and be completed before the end of the year. Uh, in January 2026, the city was notified that the project was selected for funding.

00:36:51,030	Um, the project will create a series of art and heritage discovery signs, which will include QR codes that will link to virtual versions of local literary, visual and performance arts. Um.

00:37:15,430	Each link will provide a narrative on the art form and will describe how it celebrates the past 250 years of North Dakota’s people, places, innovations and or achievements, um, contributing to the nation’s story. So a call for artist was issued on March 30th. Uh, and that call is open until May 1st at 5:00 pm. Um, the call for artist link was, uh, attached within the packet. Um, the project’s proposed timeline is also included within the packet.

00:37:38,870	Um, a selection committee, including a representative from the downtown owners, Bismarck Mandan Convention and Visitors Bureau, Bismarck Parks and Recreation District, Dakota West Arts Council, Art and Dakota West Arts Council will be formed to review submissions and provide selections to the Bismarck City Commission. A representative from the Historic Preservation Commission is requested to join the selection committee.

00:38:01,570	Uh staff recommends that the Historic Preservation Commission determine which commissioner will be on the selection committee for this project. Thank you. Lauren. Um, do we have any volunteers of anybody? I’ve got a question. Yes. Uh, how did the, uh, notice the artists get distributed? And to who? Whom did it go? Uh, that’s a great question.

00:38:30,730	So, um, it followed our typical process for, uh, like, RFP, RFQ. Um, it is posted on the city’s website. Um, where those are hosted. Um, the this, uh, what you can see on the screen here with, uh, calling all local artists and then the logos there on the left hand side.

00:38:53,130	Um, that was also, uh, included in a small campaign on social media to send it out to individuals. Um, it was also with the individuals who are providing a representative for the selection committee.

00:39:16,630	So the Dakota Arts Council, downtown owners, um, they were also asked if they could share it to, uh, members or other groups in the community that they’re aware of for that as. Well. Did Bismarck art and galleries have any input or help with that? Uh, at this point in time, Commissioner Swanson, chair, commissioners, uh, Bismarck Arts and Galleries was not notified as they weren’t on the selection committee. They might have been notified through Dakota West Arts Council.

00:39:39,000	Um, or seen it elsewhere, but beyond that. We should be boosting anything that we see of that to to get it out there. Okay. Sounds good. Commissioner Northland. Art chair and Golden. Are these for new projects that haven’t been started yet. I, I. Great question. Uh, Commissioner. Northland chair.

00:39:59,000	Commissioners. So, um, it’s open to any art. So is as long as it’s an original piece of art from an individual or a group of individuals, depending on how they’re submitting it. Um, it can be a previous artwork. Um.

00:40:21,770	Uh, there’s some more information in the actual call for artists, but, um, related to the ownership of the art as well. Um, the city wouldn’t be owning the art at all. The the the right of and ownership of the art would be staying with the artists. Um, the city would just have the opportunity to use it and promote it, um, through these signs as well.

00:40:40,670	Um, it can be new art. If the artist chooses to, or if they haven’t created something that would necessarily fit within the scope of this call for artists. Um, however, if the art doesn’t necessarily relate to the 250th, it’ll still be considered and the artist is still able to submit that artwork as well. Okay. Thank you. Lauren.

00:41:05,470	Does that answer your question? Okay, great. Um, is there a commissioner that wants to be on the selection committee? Who’s the artist among us? I nominate John Swanson. Uh, went. How? How when does this happen? I guess it’s. a when do the when do people have to get together to do all this? Oh. Lauren, do you have.

00:41:38,370	Any. Yes. Looks like first. That’s like. Two weeks. Oh, Well. So you go to the lake tomorrow. Um, out of here. Evaluation period by the selection committee is May 4th through the 15th. So you’ve got a window. Yes, I will volunteer to do that. Thank you, Commissioner Swanson.

00:42:05,330	Was anybody going to fight him for it? No. Okay. Just didn’t want to. We could volunteer. Zenker. We could volunteer Zenker. Zenker? Yeah. He’s not here. Say, that’d be volunteered, but John’s going to do it for us, so we’re good. All right. Um, that sounds great.

00:42:24,530	And, um, I’m looking forward to seeing the all the artwork. Um, moving on then. Unless there’s more to discuss on the 250. Okay, then going to the downtown district survey. Do we need to discuss more? Uh, just more. So, information. There was a memo on this, uh, chair angle and commissioners.

00:42:45,400	Um, so our consultants for the downtown district survey are in town. They’re currently, um, surveying. Um, they did arrive yesterday and got right to it with the survey work, which is very exciting.

00:43:03,570	Um, so they will be in Bismarck till Saturday doing the survey work, uh, as well as, um, conducting research. Um, on different resources at the public library, the archives, uh, potentially at the the city office building here. Um, depending on if they need a plan sets for their research or anything like that. Um, an open house is scheduled for tomorrow.

00:43:29,670	Um, so anyone in the public who’s looking to, you know, talk with our consultants or city staff on the project or, you know, just provide information to them. Um, that is scheduled for tomorrow at 530. Uh, it’ll be for an hour. Uh, at the Bismarck Veterans Memorial Public Library in meeting room B.

00:43:51,770	Um, so, commissioners and members of the public are welcome to attend and meet and converse with the consultants for that. Um, however, anyone on the street who sees them out and about more than welcome to to talk with them as well. Um, so, uh, just some information, public notice postcards were sent to the property owners within that survey area.

00:44:10,800	Additionally, the downtown owners, um, were also notified as part of that and have offered to share the information with different members that they have within that survey area. Great. That sounds good and I wish them all the best. At least they have good weather now. Uh, for it. Yeah. Till Saturday. Uh, Commissioner Saxon? Yeah. Commissioner angle. Commissioners. Here.

00:44:29,430	Um, I was up at the archives this morning at work, and, um, went out and talked with the the historian Mike, who’s doing this stuff. Um, I provided him, um, the walking tour, the downtown walking tour map, and the hard copy of the timeline. Um, yeah. They were really, really good. We keep them. But.

00:44:58,300	Um, yeah, they were, you know, just a sort of extra material for him to carry around. But the timeline. Um, because they don’t they don’t go on the city website because it’s not their city and they haven’t negotiated that. And so now they know that it’s there.

00:45:19,370	But he was really happy to have a hard copy of that. So sort of helps them with their own timeline. Looking at it. So thank you for. Doing that. Very excited. About it. That’s good. Perfect. Any other thoughts on any of that? Oh, okay. Sounds good. Is there any other business that is needing to be considered? Yes. Commissioner. Nordland.

00:45:43,730	I was wondering if we could get an update on the builders convention. Oh, yeah. Sorry. The last month was blur as to what happened and when. Uh, is there an update for the. Oh, uh. The home show? The the home show? Sorry. Um. Uh, great. Great. Uh, bring up for you, uh, Commissioner Nordland. Chair. Commissioners.

00:46:06,130	So, uh, we were at the 2026, uh, Bismarck Mandan Home Association home show. Uh, on Friday and Saturday, uh, at the end of March. Uh, we had some pretty good conversations with different individuals. I think the biggest draw, uh, was the large photo of the cathedral area. Uh, which was great.

00:46:30,800	It started conversations. Um, it brought people into, you know, discuss, you know, here’s some different resources. We have, um, a lot of individuals, uh, grabbed, um, the brochures that we had. That was another big draw for them. Um, not too many people, uh, were interested in the National Register bulletins, but maybe next time.

00:46:53,070	Um, but I think overall we had some good conversations, and at least we’re getting our name out there. So I think it was it was a good, uh, event in staff’s opinion. That’s great. Thank you so much. Prime the pump for next year when they all want the National Register nomination bulletin.

00:47:12,300	I would just like to commend Lauren and Amy and Commissioner Saracen for the work you did on that. That was amazing, the way you pulled it together. And I thought it was really a good display and a good setup, in spite of the traffic being light, but.

00:47:26,170	Well, and it’s not it’s not, um, it’s not bad to have copies of those preservation brief bulletins. People did look at them. They now know they exist. And, um, I think there were fewer builders walking around than there were people that wanted the candy bars.

00:47:48,670	But, um, there was the fact that those things exist is good for people to know about. And there are a lot there were people that said, oh, we’ve got something on a tin ceiling. You know, the pressed ceilings, which is something that people actually do see in Bismarck. And, oh, there’s a way to.

00:48:10,770	So there were. Yeah. So people, people actually looked at some things and um. Is there anything that you guys would do differently if we’re doing this again next year for. A booth, a different trade. Show or a different trade show? Yeah. Put out candy bars. Or candy bars. Okay. Sorry. Okay. Yes.

00:48:33,970	Did you take any pictures? Can you do a social media post on the. City Commissioner? Nolan? Chair. Commissioners. So, uh, that’s a great point. We did take several photos.

00:48:52,200	Um, and I know Commissioner Zenker made a strong point at last meeting, um, to to take the photos and get it out there for Historic Preservation Month. Um, so with the different social media posts that we are planning to do for the month, we’ll definitely include 1 or 2 of those in there. Sounds good. And then next year when we’re going to go back, you can start promoting our booth.

00:49:11,330	Uh, before the event and come see us on our. Booth. Lynn, Lauren and John had, um, put together, um, slot or, um, film footage from different, different things showing, um, how you did windows and a lot of different things. And frankly, they were kind of fun to watch.

00:49:38,000	You know, that’s that’s something that I think we need to make sure that, that, uh, we continue to do. Because if you can’t do stuff hands on, it’s also really a nice thing to to show it. Um, they don’t have to get dirty. They can watch it. You know, the first time, they could just watch it. Then they had to get dirty. When they really do it.

00:49:56,200	But it was, it was it was very nice. I think it turned out very well. Great. Thank you. Are there. Pieces of this booth that we can use at the Willmar? Uh. For the open house? For the for the downtown district? Uh, Commissioner. Nordland. Chair. Commissioners.

00:50:19,670	So, um, uh, John, Amy and I, uh, we did have some additional flyers that we made up. I’m a big one. I think that was fairly popular behind the the brochures was on potential funding sources, um, for properties. So I would suggest that one would be very helpful. Um, perhaps even doing. Yeah. Some of the bulletins as well.

00:50:41,000	Um, the porches, uh, I know of reading through some of those site forms that are consultant did in that area. There was a lot of information on, you know, porches that still maintain their historic integrity. So perhaps those bulletins would be very beneficial as well. Great. Thank you. You never know what’s going to pique people’s interest.

00:51:02,870	So that’s that’s good feedback. For. Next full size candy bars. I don’t know that we’ve got that in our. Approach. The first ten get full size. Oh I see I see. Okay. All right. Any other business. Okay. Hearing none. Then we will adjourn. And the next meeting is. Should have it in front of me. May something.

00:51:33,370	Anybody got that date? May 20th. Thank you. All right. Here in the Tom Baker meeting