00:00:18,670	And on zoom to conduct a regular meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission. I’m Vice Chair Beth Nodland, sitting in for chair Engel, and I call this meeting to order. I’d like to thank Dakota Media Access for providing remote option for the HPC to meet and conduct our business.

00:00:35,330	Before we start, I want to remind everyone to please silence your phones and loosely adhere to the Robert’s Rules of Order. If you’d like to speak, raise your hand. Please use the Hand Raise feature on zoom and you’ll be called on. Darcy, will you please call the roll? Commissioner Sakariassen. Here. Commissioner Hull. Here. Commissioner Perrin. here.

00:01:00,830	Commissioner Swanson here. Uh, chair Engel is not. And vice chair Nodland here. Okay. The. For the second agenda item is the, um, monthly historic preservation report that’s regarding the reports that are recently considered by the HPC and staff, and they are in the packets. They’re simply informational, and there’s no discussion or action needed.

00:01:30,730	Um, Commissioner Hull has a comment. Do we need to approve the minutes? That’s not. Until the. next agenda item. I thought you were wrong, I was wrong. What? Jumped the gun, man? Do you have your agenda? Do anybody have it? Okay. All right. That’s right. Agenda item three. Approval of the previous meetings. Minutes.

00:01:54,730	Move to the meeting that was held on August 19th. So would anyone like to make a motion to approve the minutes? Yes. Move to approve. I’ll second that. All right. We have a motion. And second. Any discussion or corrections? You have twins. There we go. Thank you. See how long that excuse that. Here.

00:02:17,130	Hearing none. Uh, please call the roll. Okay. Uh, Commissioner Perrin. Yes, Commissioner Hull. Yes, Commissioner Swanson. Yes. Commissioner Sakariassen. Yes. And vice chair Nodland. Yes. The motion passes. All right. Agenda item four. Uh, the, uh, is the public comment, period. Is there the, um, the city’s rules for public comment are posted on the website.

00:02:51,470	Um, is there anyone in the audience or on zoom who would like to provide input to us? Now is the time. I don’t see anyone in the room. Is there anyone online? Nope. All right, so hearing none. Uh, the time for public input is closed.

00:03:13,330	Okay, now we’re going to move on to the regular agenda. We have two items today. Uh, the first one we’re going to review and consider the baseball history text for the brochures. Lauren, do you want to come to the podium and guide us through this? Did you read it? Uh. Thank you.

00:03:39,000	Chair or vice chair? Nodland and commissioners. I do have printouts of the text for the brochures, if you would like it for this item. I believe it was also emailed today to everybody. Just so you have. It. Thank you again. Uh, vice chair and commissioners. So, um, the agenda item didn’t have any attachments.

00:04:16,930	Um, staff and, uh, Commissioner Nodland were still working through some of the details for that. Um, we do have that draft text here that will also be attached with the minutes for this meeting. Um, staff would ask that you would review, provide feedback, and approve the text and photos for the baseball history brochure.

00:04:35,470	Um, we are on a little bit of a tight deadline for this to utilize the funds in the 2024 Historic Preservation Fund grant. Um, any comments or corrections that you would have would be made prior to those brochures being printed? Um, this has also been sent out or it will be sent out today to

00:05:00,000	the state as well for their review. Thank you. Lauren. All right. Does anybody have any questions for Lauren or comments? I don’t know if anyone had time to read it. Um, yes, I. Commissioner Commissioner. Sakariassen chair. vice chair, vice chair. Um, and commissioners.

00:05:27,300	Um, do we have an idea of what what shape this brochure will be? Uh, a lot of different ways to do it. I know customarily we’ve done three fold things, but, um, for a longer thing, you know, is there a is there a different format we’ve explored? Uh, that’s a great question, Commissioner Sakariassan chair and Commissioners.

00:05:48,130	So, uh, we have just looked at the trifold, but in different sizes. So we’ve looked at an 11 by 17, which is the size we currently have for our other brochures. Um, not the Highland Acres one, but our cathedral area in downtown ones. Um, we have also looked at a slightly smaller one, just doing an 11 by eight and a half.

00:06:08,600	Um, so it would be slightly smaller, but the folds would still be the same for that. Okay. Thank you. Lauren. Commissioner Hull. Uh, vice chair and commissioners. Lauren, I guess. Yeah. The only input I have, you know, which I’m guessing is obvious.

00:06:25,730	But just in case, you know, it’s already been a fun meeting so far. So, you know, for things that should be obvious. Um, is. Yeah, I guess, like, I’m presuming this isn’t the format going to look like, you know, the pictures will be bigger relative to text and stuff.

00:06:40,400	And yeah, I guess the only input I’d have is, yeah, making sure whenever, whatever size you choose of, uh, legibility for the text, but also the photos, you know, because I know some of these are going to be blurry. So it’s like, might as well not increase it that, you know, the blurriness shows, but, you know, find that optimum range. Those are my main comments. Thanks.

00:06:56,930	I can give a little description of it. If anybody wants. Okay. We want. Um, so there are a lot of images that aren’t in the text. There’s a ton of images and there’s things like uniforms and caps and baseballs and other items that can be photographed and used in the.

00:07:21,330	This is no graphic design to it right now. Um, but there are a lot of pictures and that, um, so there were a couple other attachments that aren’t they’re not ready for public distribution of the graphics.

00:07:42,870	Um, so most people who, when they write about or talk about Bismarck, history, history, talk about the semipro history of Bismarck, especially the couple years when Satchel Paige and Neal Churchill were here and their fabulous team took, uh, went to the semi-pro national championship and won. And so that period gets a lot of focus.

00:08:07,400	But I kind of took an entirely different approach, which was baseball’s been part of Bismarck’s history for 153 years, since before Bismarck was Bismarck and semi-pro teams came and went and adult and amateur teams came and went. But one thing that really, um, prevailed and and didn’t ever waver was the youth baseball. The, uh, the boys and girls played baseball. The American Legion governors have been playing for ten decades. They’ve won 12 championships.

00:08:35,770	They are they have a phenomenal history in Bismarck. And so I think so I kind of tried to focus on a little bit of everybody that there were a lot of national traveling teams that came into Bismarck to play from everywhere.

00:08:56,000	There were women’s teams who came to play the men in our first game under the electric lights was played against a women’s, a famous barnstorming women’s team played the men. And, uh, there was another game when President Wilson came to Bismarck for a few hours.

00:09:18,370	But the entertainment from the for the day was a big, giant baseball game that 5000 people were here to enjoy. Um, I mean, there’s all kinds of quirky stories they used, like the Larks do. They used to do children’s activities for entertainment. One of them was they would strap dollar bills to the legs of chickens and throw them out onto the fields, and the children would chase them.

00:09:37,730	And they, whoever caught the chickens got to keep the chicken and the. Dollar. So there’s all kinds of weird, quirky, fun things. And so. There was some WKRP stuff, but but so there’s a lot of fun information in addition to the famous semi-pro era. And so there’s a way too much information in there.

00:10:02,700	But it was like, let’s get let’s get it done. Let’s see what it was for 153 years. And then let’s pick what can translate into a into a brochure or a booklet. I mean, it just depends what we have the funds to do.

00:10:19,270	And so I feel like I’ve kind of pushed I am not a baseball person, and I’ve pushed to the point. And so we need I mean, it needs some, um, like what? When you’re reading it, if you, if you could comment on like which parts appeal and yeah, there’s some places where we list we, I tried to bring in some of the famous, more famous names and

00:10:45,970	players and teams that we had. But if there’s some places where you find parts that feel like they could go then, then please put those in. So that’s kind of my summary of what it was. Um, I inherited the project from others. And so, um, this is not where I got. So please help Commissioner Hull.

00:11:07,770	Uh, Bison Island. Uh, appreciate the description you mentioned. Additional photos. Lots of them. Um, I’m presuming you don’t have any for the 1873 to 1876 era. Yes we do. Oh, you do okay, because I it would be nice if we could, you know, spread a more evenly if you mean subtracting someone later. There’s some bridge.

00:11:25,430	There’s some for each era. I know that might make it interesting. You know, it’ll be balanced for you or the staff to figure out how, you know, to make sure every, you know, to fit on some fit on paper, where it doesn’t scrunch everything. So it’s, you know, nothing as bad because it’s too small.

00:11:38,270	But yeah, if we could put in more photos for the first half. Yeah. The team that played, I’m just going to be a nerd here that played in the 1880s and such were mostly firemen, and they were called the number one hearts. But there are several photos of the, of them and of of of the fireman teams.

00:11:59,600	So there’s, there, there there is stuff reach not the 1873 stuff. Not there. Oh that runs my plan. I was going to suggest one for each section. No, I think people would forgive us for that one. AI yeah, there we go. Yes, I’ve seen I’ve seen videos, color videos of 1901. Forget I said that. All right. Thank you.

00:12:19,970	Anybody else have any ideas here? I want to say I think this is very entertaining reading and very informative. I really like the the note that, um, that you carried through it. I think it was an attractive, um, an attractive read. Okay. Well. Mine is not easy to do, I know.

00:12:42,300	So my question that I talked to Lauren about to is, is was who is our audience is and where would we distribute this. Because if it’s in I mean, of course it would go to the baseball stadium and the people there.

00:13:01,530	But other audiences, because of the strength of the youth baseball, I mean, recreational leagues, little leagues, Babe Ruth leagues, the school leagues. I mean, the audience is in the and their parents, the audience is bigger than just the ballpark. And so it’s trying to hit what’s the tone that’s right. For this? Well, it works. It works for me.

00:13:21,870	I mean, I, you know, and I we all know I’m pretty picky. with stuff, but I really liked, uh, I liked your your tone. I like the way the information was delivered. Um, it’s friendly and and enthusiastic. And I think that no matter what your demographic and what your audience is, that’s the. No.

00:13:45,900	That that will will make people respond to it. And absorb the information in it, because that’s what we we want. We want to convey the information. We want to educate. We want to inform people. And this has, has, uh, has a great appeal in the way you put it together. So I appreciate that. Commissioner.

00:14:10,370	Vice chair, and I reiterate what Commissioner Sakariassan said about the effort I made. I haven’t had time to read through. So all my comments have been broad brush, but it’s like I figured with the time crunch, it’s like, you know, it’s not, you know, not knowing how good it is, you know, but

00:14:24,400	sounds like it’s great, but it’s like it, you know, it sounds at the very least, right, to be blunt, like, at least it’s good enough to get out.

00:14:36,830	And then if we want to make changes based on our own, you know, input later or stakeholder, you know, stakeholder input, you know, from like the larks or other audiences we can modify later and play with it and update it for any future grant money where it’s like, hey, let’s do a version two something.

00:14:52,170	So yeah, I won’t, I won’t, I won’t worry too much if we, you know, there’s, there’s such like you said, there’s such a broad audience like who knows what, who will really pick up on it. It’s like we got it out, which is a lift in itself. Um, so it’s like, I think we’re. Yeah, we’re at the stage where it’s like, yeah, this is a critical issue.

00:15:09,130	I think if there were a hard edit or two and somebody who likes baseball would read a hard edit then and, and we can gather the images quickly. Um, so if people are willing to read it and give feedback within the next week. Um, oh yeah.

00:15:31,230	If somebody if we could do that, we’ll gather the imagery between now and then and then and then we can have it laid out and see how what options are. Uh, vice chair Nodland. Uh, and commissioners, uh, within that week, staff will be meeting with the printing company to go over layout and everything. Some of it can be updated at that time. But at that time crunch, we just want to start moving that process forward. There. Commissioner Perrin.

00:15:56,100	Vice Chair, have we, um has there been any reach out to maybe the clerks see what like John Bullinger, what he might have, if he might have any input on it or. Not yet. But not yet. He should be okay. It sent it to some. There.

00:16:10,000	We cc to to some others, but we haven’t gotten any feedback yet. Okay. But we could. Okay. Um, I’m not sure on a turnaround time, but I can try to reach out and see if maybe, maybe if there’s an interest that they would be willing to take a look at it, then provide some feedback prior to, uh, printing, if that’d be

00:16:28,200	beneficial. Sure. And and if, if, uh, I believe that they were emailed to you today so you could use that. Yeah. Okay. The other the other one, if anyone has any contacts who might be the American Legion governors, but I don’t. I can ask someone. Thank you. Chair. So is that is. Oh.

00:16:58,030	I just had one one comment. I was it seems really text heavy. It is. And I think some of that can be fixed by taking some of the material and making it a caption to the photographs in some cases, rather than, you know, having it part of the

00:17:14,070	whole text. Yeah. Um, it, I mean, it was a bit of a slog, but I mean, I’m a baseball guy. I like, oh, good stuff. So there you go. Well, I’m not you know, I’m not an expert about anything.

00:17:32,870	Can you? Commissioner Swanson, could you take a read through it and see if there’s parts of it that are, you know, like, I was trying to include the history of some of the, um, baseball diamonds and ballparks in town to, you know, do we need those? I mean, so it’s sort of like if the if, if you, if you have

00:17:47,230	that expertise, if you could take a look and see what parts of it that you don’t, you think are, are, you know, that would really help. Yeah. I read through it quickly this morning. Okay. Yeah, sure. Okay.

00:18:09,070	And there’s some things like I was working on the the question of the Bismarck having an integrated team, but Jamestown had one the year before. And so it’s like, do we really need all the names of the Jamestown players? Probably not. So there’s places where it can easily be cut. But so the question that we have is if we is that rather do we need to approve it.

00:18:32,370	So we need to approve the process that we’re going to, uh, edit do layout, get a, get it through this. The State Historic Preservation Office, get some feedback and then try to get an agreement. By the time we get to the end of the grant deadline. So is is somebody willing to make a motion toward.

00:18:52,470	That, uh, move to approve with the comments we’ve given in any comments that might come afterwards that can be integrated in. Yeah, integrated. I will I will second that. Does anybody have any further comments or questions. Sorry. One question.

00:19:18,930	Um, vice chair, with it being a week, what would be like a timeline, like if we were to reach out to an external source to be like, hey, if you have time to read this, if you could reach back to us by this time. So we’re within our window to get it printed. And. Uh, comments need to absolutely be in by 5:00.

00:19:38,730	Uh, next Wednesday, next 23rd. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else have any other questions or. Comments? All right. Do we call the roll? Commissioner Hull? Yes. Commissioner Swanson. Yes, Commissioner. Perrin. Yes, Commissioner. Sakariassan. Yes. And vice chair. Nodland. Yes. Okay. That motion passes and we will move on to our next agenda item, which is the local history of education kits.

00:20:18,800	Lauren, could you guide us to this. One? Uh, thank you, vice chair, Nodland and Commissioner. So this agenda item has a little bit of a show and tell that we’ll do in a little bit. Um, I did provide you with some pretty hefty reading material right before the meeting.

00:20:38,230	I’m very sorry about that. Um, feel free. As with the other one, to provide comments. Uh, after this, um, please keep in mind that this can be updated as we move forward with it. It’s not an end all be all.

00:20:56,870	Um, so if we do need to update this, say, within a year, um, for removing certain activities or adding new ones, and that can happen. Um, the goal for finalizing this project was to spend the money, um, for the resources that we have in the kit and get this first version of the kits out.

00:21:19,270	Um, so with that, I do have two separate documents in front of the commissioners. The first one is for the primary school students. So we’re looking at K through five. Um, that could potentially use or do some of the activities in there or use some of the items in there.

00:21:40,800	Um, they don’t necessarily need to follow the different activities that are within there. Um, so I can just go through, um, kind of what you’re seeing. So the very front page has a goals and material section. It identifies the different items, including any resources and books that are within, um, all the kits there.

00:21:59,670	Um, they are different between the two kits, just based on the different education levels. Um, then we go into a little bit of a Bismarck history with a note that it’s mainly the brief history leading up, uh, up to and into this Great Depression era that we’re discussing in the kits.

00:22:20,030	Um, and then additional material, uh, including a list of 1930s, um, books is also included in this section, as well as, uh, what we’re terming a cast of characters within Bismarck during this time period. Um, and those cast of characters were actually used to create a couple different word search options.

00:22:50,400	Um, because not every teacher wants to go through a full lesson, sometimes it’s easier just to hand out a nice word search here or there, but it still gets that point across of, uh, Bismarck’s history and those key players at that time. Um, for this, uh, primary school, uh, kit, we do have a couple different activities. Um, there is an arts and entertainment matching section.

00:23:11,730	It’s showing some before and after photos, uh, various sites. And then it has a labeling activity with a map. Um, it’s a little difficult to see on your version here, but the, the there are spots on the digital version that are bright red. So you can see them. They’re a little bit more distinctive there.

00:23:33,300	Um, and it just helps them label and, and uh, have that comparison between the two. Um, our next one is focusing on games during the Great Depression. So, um, think marbles, jacks. Um, we have some cat’s cradle.

00:23:59,800	Um, we even have a couple baseballs and, uh, baseball gloves kind of throwing into, uh, uh, tying into a little bit of our brochure there, which we would love to have included in the kit as well. Once that’s finalized. Um, there’s just some different components in there.

00:24:20,700	We did try to have at least two different activities within an activity, um, making sure that, uh, students are able to do one or the other or both if they wanted to, um, we do have a another activity. It’s listening to the radio. So we do have some recordings from radio stations from that time period that are included in both of those kits.

00:24:44,130	Um, additionally, we have some radio scripts that were created, um, in the 1930s by Bismarck High School students. Um, so we’ve grabbed those and utilized those. And, um, they can be recreated by students that could be using this if they’d like to.

00:25:06,000	Um, and then we have a recipe activity in both of the kits. Um, there is a little back and forth with, with where to put that, but I think this one’s a big one. Everyone loves food, and I think it plays into all levels. There. And then, um, we do have a, a hobo symbol worksheet.

00:25:29,170	So, uh, working with symbols and kind of translating that in a, in a way into, um, into words. So it’s hopefully some fun activities. Um, but teachers or other individuals who would be using the kit can obviously make their own activities. These are just some starting points for thinking on how to use the kit.

00:25:52,100	Um, I will go into explaining the secondary one, and then we can do some show and tell if that’s okay with you guys. Um, so very similar with the secondary one for some of those, uh, starting materials with the background history there.

00:26:15,000	Um, the different cast of characters again, um, we do have a pretty hefty activity right off the bat. It’s, um, we pulled, uh, various diary entries from a book titled The Dust Bowl Diary. Um, and this one, it pulls a lot of, um, experiences from North Dakota. Uh, it’s an actual diary from somebody who lived during that time period.

00:26:38,530	So it’s a great opportunity to do some comparing and contrasting with what’s put there. What would kids do today in that kind of situation? It gets them thinking about that. Um, so that one’s a little bit heftier, but it’s a starting point. Um, it with having the multiple excerpts in there, they can choose one. They can choose all to use.

00:26:59,400	Um, again, we have an arts and entertainment. Uh, activity again. Um, for the secondary students, we actually have several printouts of historic, um, Bismarck Tribune newspapers, um, for the kits and, um, not many people know how to read a newspaper these days or or hopefully, um, they this will provide that opportunity for them to see

00:27:28,200	what that kind of looks like. Um, and what an actual news article looks like, what’s actually in a newspaper? Um, there’s ads some people don’t realize that’s it’s kind of that original form of knowing where you’re getting your different random items that pop up.

00:27:50,400	Um, so we try to pull out both the news, but the ad component there just kind of making sure it’s not just the news aspect, but the social aspect that gets pulled in the newspapers. And then another recipe activity, um, the radioactivity. Um, we do have another activity regarding mapping. So there’s your normal geographical maps.

00:28:17,400	And then we also have, um, some opportunities with a Clell Gannon, um, pictorial map. Um, and it’s a great opportunity to do some comparisons between those different types of maps, um, mapping is not a big thing with kids. So hopefully this is a good stepping stone for them.

00:28:36,930	And then we finish it off with, uh, that hobo symbol worksheet again. Okay, on to I guess some show and tell if you guys are willing to sit a little bit longer through this. So just kind of showing you guys here, um, this is all our newspapers in here. They have the dates that they’re in. They’re a little, uh, nice carrying case. Amy, feel free to. you know.

00:29:13,170	I’ll mention the, um, the main purpose of the the newspapers was to show, um, not just national history, because that’s usually on the front page, but also all the other things that the newspaper had, like who did what.

00:29:41,170	So a lot of the names that they will be looking at that we want them to know, you know, oh, Coach Schaumberg, oh, that’s what Schaumberg Arena came. You know, they’re all a lot of names that you can find in the newspaper. What radio shows were playing on the Bismarck radio stations, what people were doing, what they were listening, what they were doing, what games they were playing.

00:30:01,970	I got some more stuff to stick in there for the primary school. Um, the, uh, there was a huge marbles competition championship in Bismarck in the 30s, and all the grade school kids were there, 600 kids playing marbles in Bismarck. And there are a lot of stories about that.

00:30:23,330	But those sorts of simple things that show how during the hard days of the depression, when they can look, see what groceries cost, but they can also see, I mean, marbles, that’s a pretty cheap form of entertainment, you know? I mean, they were everybody was trying to do the best with what they had.

00:30:45,530	And that the newspaper should show that and they should be able to find, um, in a number of different things. Lessons that will appeal to whatever student, you know, you never know what’s going to appeal to, to anybody. But there should be things in there that will give them insight into Bismarck’s history in the 30s. So.

00:31:07,900	Um, this is one of the representational maps. This is our cloud Gannon map. Um, he did it in the 1930s. So I think it’s a great representation of kind of that difference there. Um. I won’t pull everything out, but I just want to make sure you guys are aware.

00:31:34,130	So, um, each of the kits, I’ll, I’ll pull some books out, but we have it pretty well organized. Um, we do have additional teacher resources that they can grab, um, in there, in folders here. And then the books are set out in a separate area. Um, Amy created a really fun activity, um, with the library cards, if you want to explain that.

00:31:55,430	In the old days, which I distantly recall, um, every book at the public library, and this was largely before in the in Bismarck. This was largely before the schools had their own libraries. So it would have been the the public library.

00:32:16,430	Every library book had a pocket, and the pocket had a checkout card, and the check out card had your name on it. And the date it was due. So we recreated that using only hardcover books from that time period, because paperback books were not I, we were in the book business as a as a family.

00:32:38,430	There were no paperback books at that time, so they were all been hardcover or those pasteboard kids once. Um, but the the library pockets will each one, each card has a name of somebody that they can either Google if they’re lazy or they can find those names in pictures in the photograph albums that we put together or any of and or the newspapers or

00:33:04,330	a number of different articles will show, um, we’ll give you some information about that person. So we’re not we’re not providing them with a biography of, um, Sara Lee slogan. They can find it. They have they might have to look for it. But that’s part of the lesson.

00:33:24,700	One of the things, as a researcher that I’m thinking that these one of the purposes of this is to give young people some idea of the idea of primary resources that you you sometimes just can’t go to Google. That’s why we have references. That’s why we’ve provided things beyond the internet, um, to look for these things, particularly with local history.

00:33:52,930	It’s really important to know what sources there are and where they are. And so these little book pockets give you, um, an idea of perhaps, oh, there’s a there are books that were checked out by George Will and Russell Read.

00:34:13,730	Well, why would they have picked out that book? Well, when you look at their when you do some research on them, you know, it’s because they took a canoe trip with, you know, and so that’s why they were interested in those sorts of things.

00:34:33,670	So it’s it’s a way I tried to put together something that would connect the topic of the book, whether it was an educator checking out a book that she might use in her classes, or whether it was somebody whose personal interest led that trying to give a fuller idea of some of the characters in the community by by putting their names on certain books. So anyway. You want to go to the library to present. Take a look.

00:35:00,170	Um, this will just be the last thing. So, um, you can see we have just some organization going on here, but as you mentioned, all the different hardcover books here, and we have some of our games in here as well.

00:35:20,000	Um, so hopefully we have enough of a spread of both the, the hardcover resources and the primary resources, as well as some of those fun items in these, um, I forgot what I was going to say. Uh, what we would be asking for, I guess, is, uh, approval of these initial kits.

00:35:45,070	Um, if you do have any comments for the material that was presented to you, feel free to provide those after if you would like or right now. Um, but what would be really beneficial for any comments would be any ways that we could improve this and make sure it’s it’s usable and understandable for everyone. Thank you. Lauren. All right. Does anybody have questions or comments? Commissioner Hull. Uh, vice chair. Nodland, uh, vice chair and commissioners.

00:36:10,200	Uh, Lauren, I guess one question, one comment. Uh, and I guess the initial comment looks great. Um, so thank you. Thank you all that worked on it.

00:36:28,500	Um, one is, um, is how how will the teachers know these exist and how will they get access? Uh, thank you, Commissioner Hull, vice chair and commissioners. So, um, we will be reaching out to the Bismarck Library. Um, but we’ll also work with Kaitlyn to just shoot out a nice push on social media. Um, hopefully, since it’s the beginning of the year.

00:36:50,200	Um, teachers, if they’re looking for something to fill in their curriculum, they might see this and think it’s a good opportunity. Um, I know we have several homeschool groups in our community as well that could benefit from additional material as well. So, um, I know we’ve been looking at reaching out to some of those groups as well. Yeah. Um.

00:37:08,900	And Commissioner Nodland, uh, commissioners, uh, we also had on the, the group that was putting this together, um, one substitute teacher, one active, um, junior high teacher, high school, junior high. I can’t remember, um, and another retired teacher who are putting who were, um, anticipating will get the availability out as well as just notice from this office.

00:37:40,470	Lauren, I have a question. Do you do you know, is there I seem to remember there was a group of the eighth grade is a eighth grade history teachers in Bismarck kind of have a group.

00:37:55,870	And have we reached out to them or could we reach out to them? Um, Commissioner Nodland, um, I didn’t realize there was a full group of them. Um, one of the people we had on our subcommittee, I was, uh, in eighth grade teacher. So I don’t know if he’s part of that group or not. Commissioner Hull. Uh, vice chair. Nodland, uh, vice chair and commissioners.

00:38:18,330	Um, Lauren. Yeah, I guess the other comment would be like, I don’t know if we can shoot an email to Bismarck Park. You know, or maybe, you know, I mean, there’d be these one to get the max, but, you know, any of the other schools of in case

00:38:31,700	they just pass on, I figured, you know, just shoot an email to them and they can pass it on or not, you know, to their detriment, I guess. Um, the other comment I’d have is if we could include, um, some way of, I don’t know, a comment sheet or something.

00:38:46,600	And, you know, for the students and teachers that not that they have to, but if they have, if they have input for, you know, changes or improvements or it’s like, hey, this is great, can you do more, you know, different? I don’t know, just, you know, that’d be the easiest avenue for, you know, you know, making the modifications as they, as it

00:39:01,130	hits the market. I’ll say thanks. Great. Thanks. Commissioner Sakariassen Yes. Um, the the thing that we didn’t mention was that the, um, the career cat, not the career academy, the. Well, I talked to your son in law, Patrick, and there were students at, um, the new high school.

00:39:28,170	Why am I drawing a legacy? Legacy? Legacy? Legacy. Who actually took the scripts that kids had written almost 100 years ago? And they did sort of a podcast version, taking the scripts and produce those as an example. Um, for kids that they might do.

00:39:52,870	So there are a number of people already within the school system that are aware of that, that these are are coming up. And those kids were pretty proud of, um, having whipped together in the last month of school, maybe the last day of school. Yeah, before I got it.

00:40:19,400	But, um, but it was nice to involve, um, students now with something that because those scripts were actually produced on CalFire in the 30s, but there’s no record because they didn’t record those things. So this is the first time that anybody can hear those words. You know, spoken. And they did the sound effects and everything.

00:40:37,600	And it was really kind of kind of a nice way to to tie an active, um, student process with, with this. And so that the teachers that were involved with that were pretty excited about it. So. Very cool. Um, vice chair, Nodland and commissioners, I don’t have it on here, but something to be aware of. We’ll have an acknowledgement section.

00:41:03,870	Um, for all the volunteers who helped out, um, even the students and the teachers who have. So yeah, I was going to ask that if when you do the if you do a social media push to include the thanks to the, to the teachers and the students and all of the people in the community who have who have participated because they’ve

00:41:22,830	been working on that for a long time. So thank you. I moved to, uh, moved to approve. Do we have a second. Second? Rock, paper? Nope. You have to play marbles to win. All right. Can you call the roll or the. Vote? Commissioner Swanson? Yes, Commissioner Perrin Yes, Commissioner Sakariassan. Yes. Commissioner Hull. Yes. Vice chair.

00:41:54,430	Yes. Right. The motion passes. Nice job with that, by the way. Okay, I think we that is our last regular agenda item. And so the next item is other business. Does anybody. Oh Lauren has. Them. So. Lauren. Uh, thank you, vice chair Nodland.

00:42:23,870	And commissioner is so next Tuesday, Chair Engel will be presenting the historic preservation plan for final adoption to the city commission. Um, just making you all aware of that. Um. Okay, could you repeat that? It’s next Tuesday at the city commission meeting. Which is. Yep. Which is held in the Tom Baker meeting room in the basement of the city county office building. And that meeting starts at 5:15 p.m..

00:42:46,770	5:15 and a HPC chair. Engel will be presenting the HPC's. Um, guiding document. In essence, our plan. Um, so if anyone’s interested in seeing that was another multi-year project that turned out very well. So all right. Thank you. Is there any other other business? All right. Hearing none, I am going to call this meeting adjourned.

00:43:16,730	The next regular Historic Preservation Commission meeting is October 21st at 3 p.m. here in the Tom Baker Room and online through Dakota Media Access